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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 08:55:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pedro Giffuni <pfg@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: Adobe source Sans Pro fonts
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Hi Herbert;=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Herbert Due=
rr <hdu@apache.org>=0A>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org =0A>Sent: Friday, A=
ugust 10, 2012 2:52 AM=0A>Subject: Re: Adobe source Sans Pro fonts=0A> =0A>=
On 09.08.2012 22:55, Pedro Giffuni wrote:=0A>> Of course it's too late for =
AOO 3.4.1 but Adobe has made available=0A>> a new set of free fonts (as in =
OFL- which we temptatively classified=0A>> Category-B)=0A>> =0A>> http://bl=
ogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/08/source-sans-pro.html=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> We=
 should probably consider them for inclusion in AOO 3.5.=0A>=0A>That is gre=
at news, thanks for sharing. They look beautiful.=0A>=0A=0AActually I learn=
ed about them indirectly through imacat's fb :).=0A=0AFWIW, the LibreOffice=
 and AOO packages in FreeBSD are both=0Ausing the system=A0fonts so I plan =
to package the fonts independently=0Afor FreeBSD. Adding the fonts in AOO i=
s not urgent for me so if=0Asome other committer is in a hurry .. please go=
 ahead ;).=0A=0A=0A>> BTW, I am also aware that Liberation fonts are being =
rebased on=0A>> the Google fonts and released under OFL. Right now there do=
esn't=0A>> seem to be any advantage in switching them but maybe in the futu=
re=0A>> we should.=0A>=0A>Most of the Liberation fonts have been relicensed=
 under the OFL, with the exception of Liberation Sans Narrow family, which =
had been contributed under the restrictive license the other Liberation fon=
t faces were under. Until this is resolved upgrading to the relicensed vers=
ion would lose the Liberation Sans Narrow font faces.=0A>=0A=0AHere is an i=
nteresting=A0comparison between the old Liberation and the=0AGoogle croscor=
e fonts:=0Ahttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Liberation_vs_Croscore_fonts=
=A0=0A=0AIt seems to me like the Liberation guys=A0simply renamed the Googl=
e=0Afonts: if they orderly rebase their old enhancements=A0on top of the=0A=
renamed fonts then it may be a good idea to adopt the=A0Liberation=0A2.x fo=
nts.=A0Well, we already don't carry the Liberation Sans Narrow=0Afont so "u=
pgrading"=A0we don't really lose anything ;).=A0=A0At the moment=0Athe Goog=
le fonts are the same as=A0Liberation 2.0 so I don't see a need=0Ato update=
 them, plus having the Chrome Fonts with different names=0Ato the Liberatio=
n Fonts is good if people need to install the Sans=0ANarrow in Liberation 1=
.x.=0A=0A=0A>As I accidentally have some insight of the problem here are th=
e facts:=0A>- their counterparts were GPL licensed, so they inherited this =
constraint=0A>- they were produced during work time, so the designer's empl=
oyer of that time has the rights to them=0A>- the designer would be happy w=
ith relicensing them to a permissive license but only his ex-employer has t=
he right to do so=0A>=0A=0AAt the time it was thought that the=A0GPL could =
be commercially friendly=0Abut it is clear that the GPL, with our without e=
xceptions, is an awful license=0Afor most=A0things and specifically for fon=
ts. This is also an issue for ghostscript=0Afonts which are for=A0all purpo=
ses stagnated.=0A=0AI think the licensing issue forced us to be a few month=
s ahead of our time=0Awhen we chose to move to the Google=A0Chrome fonts.=
=A0=0A=0A=0AIn the future I think it would be nice to have some kind for ho=
sting services=0Alike Google's=A0Web Fonts:=0A=0Ahttps://developers.google.=
com/webfonts/docs/developer_api=A0=0A=0A=0A=0AJust dreaming, perhaps ;).=0A=
=0APedro.