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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote
Date Mon, 27 Aug 2012 13:55:31 GMT
There are, as many have pointed out, two issues. The first is, can AOO do
what it is doing - the answer to this one is yes and has been clearly
expressed a number of times in this thread. The second is whether AOO can
go a step further than what it is already doing. The answer to this is No,
as has been expressed a number of times in this thread.

If we separate these issues out then we can proceed. The first issue is
resolved (the release vote passed with the original objection being
withdrawn). The second issue remains open. It is for the AOO PPMC to find a
solution to this.

I can see two potential solutions to the problem. Which is right for the
AOO project is not the concern of gernal@. So let's drop general@ from this
discussion so we can focus on the actual problem rather than this never
ending circular thread.
On Aug 27, 2012 8:56 AM, <donald_harbison@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote on 08/27/2012 08:43:35 AM:
>
> > From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org, Joe Schaefer
> > <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>,
> > Cc: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" <ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> > Date: 08/27/2012 08:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote
> >
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > No.  There is NO WAY IN HELL the org can indemnify
> > > a volunteer who produces a binary build themselves.
> > >
> > > Please don't bother asking legal-discuss to tackle this.
> > >
> >
> > Here's an analogy: for a long, long time Bill Rowe has taken
> > it upon himself to create binary builds of Apache httpd for
> > the large Windows community. Netware binary builds are also
> > occasionally released (see http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi).
> >
> > These are available right from the official httpd download
> > page and located right next to the official source code,
> > yet they are artifacts NOT released (officially) by the
> > ASF or the httpd PMC, but are available from a "trusted"
> > source.
> >
> > Isn't that all the end-user cares about? And isn't that
> > sufficient for AOO?
>
> Yes, that's what end users care about. But it's not sufficient for AOO
> since we are seeking alternative distribution channels. Effort to
> exponentially expand distribution channels require code signing. These
> discussions were started on legal@ with no resolution. Sorry I don't have
> the reference for that handy.
>
>
> >
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