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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
Date Fri, 24 Aug 2012 09:31:00 GMT
On 24 August 2012 00:13, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Donald Harbison <dpharbison@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If I recollect correctly, Ross volunteered to work the roster issue on
>> behalf of the PPMC and as one of more active mentors. He's pretty busy at
>> the moment, but I think we can put this taskforward for his attention and
>> action.
>>
>
> We're already doing this, on ooo-private.  All PPMC members should be
> monitoring that list or they will risk missing important threads.

Yep. I've been watching that work. Thank you very much for moving it
forwards in absence of my own delivery.

Ross

>
> -Rob
>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> @sebb
>>>
>>> Yes, what you say about the position of the Chair (and also how the chair
>>> accomplishes that as an officer of the ASF) was what I had in mind.
>>>
>>> With regard to the PPMC, here is a roster of the *current* PPMC (subject
>>> to corrections anyone notices):
>>>
>>>     Kai Ahrens : kahrens PPMC
>>>     Florent André : florent PPMC
>>>     Dave Barton : bmcs PPMC
>>>     Mathias Bauer : mbauer PPMC
>>>     Cyril Beaussier : bidouille PPMC
>>>     Stephan Bergmann : sb PPMC
>>>     Raphael Bircher : rbircher PPMC
>>>     Simon Brouwer : simonbr PPMC
>>>     Arthur Buijs : artietee PPMC
>>>     Jin Hua Chen : chenjinh PPMC
>>>     Jian Hong Cheng : chengjh PPMC
>>>     Ariel Constenla-Haile : arielch PPMC
>>>     Yuri Dario : ydario PPMC
>>>     Hagar Delest : hagar PPMC
>>>     Herbert Dürr : hdu PPMC
>>>     Claudio Filho : filhocf PPMC
>>>     Andre Fischer : af PPMC
>>>     David Fisher : wave PPMC
>>>     Thomas J. Frazier : tj PPMC
>>>     Roberto Galoppini : galoppini PPMC
>>>     Pedro Giffuni : pfg PPMC
>>>     Wolf Halton : wolfhalton PPMC
>>>     Dennis E. Hamilton : orcmid PPMC
>>>     Don Harbison : dpharbison PPMC
>>>     Regina Henschel : regina PPMC
>>>     Ivo Hinkelmann : ivo PPMC
>>>     Kazunari Hirano : khirano PPMC
>>>     Martin Hollmichel : mhollmichel PPMC
>>>     Jim Jagielski : jim PPMC
>>>     Drew Jensen : atjensen PPMC
>>>     Christoph Jopp : cjopp PPMC
>>>     Damjan Jovanovic : damjan PPMC
>>>     Peter Junge : pj PPMC
>>>     Yegor Kozlov : yegor PPMC
>>>     Marcus Lange : marcus PPMC
>>>     Graham Lauder : yo PPMC
>>>     Armin Le Grand : alg PPMC
>>>     Steve Lee : stevelee PPMC
>>>     Wang Lei : leiw PPMC
>>>     Christian Lippka : clippka PPMC
>>>     Ian Lynch : ingotian PPMC
>>>     Yong Lin Ma : mayongl PPMC
>>>     Carl Marcum : cmarcum PPMC
>>>     David McKay : thegurkha PPMC
>>>     Ingrid von der Mehden : ingrid PPMC
>>>     Antón Méixome : meixome PPMC
>>>     Maho Nakata : maho PPMC
>>>     Albino  Neto : bino28 PPMC
>>>     Andrea Pescetti : pescetti PPMC
>>>     Frank Thomas Peters : fpe PPMC
>>>     Allen Pulsifer : apulsifer PPMC
>>>     Eike Rathke : erack PPMC
>>>     Manfred Reiter : fredao PPMC
>>>     Zoltán Reizinger : r4zoli PPMC
>>>     RGB.ES : rgb-es PPMC
>>>     Phillip Rhodes : prhodes PPMC
>>>     Andrew Rist : arist PPMC
>>>     Lawrence Rosen : lrosen PPMC
>>>     Roberto Salomon : salomon PPMC
>>>     Juan C. Sanz : jucasaca PPMC
>>>     Kay Schenk : kschenk PPMC
>>>     Jürgen Schmidt : jsc PPMC
>>>     Yang Shih-Ching : imacat PPMC
>>>     Jomar Silva : homembit PPMC
>>>     Kai Sommerfeld : kso PPMC
>>>     Louis Suárez-Potts : louis PPMC
>>>     Stefan Taxhet : st PPMC
>>>     Malte Timmermann : malte PPMC
>>>     Zhe Wang : wangzcdl PPMC
>>>     Rob Weir : robweir PPMC
>>>     Oliver-Rainer Wittmann : orw PPMC
>>>     Jian Fang Zhang : zhangjf PPMC
>>>     Xia Zhao : lilyzhao PPMC
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:17
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
>>>
>>> On 23 August 2012 19:22, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to
>>> be identified before the election of a Chair from that body is undertaken.
>>>
>>> The initial proposed PMC for other podlings has usually been taken
>>> from the PPMC membership, but dropping any inactive (or unwilling)
>>> members.
>>>
>>> > Also, this seems like a very good time to review, for the benefit of all
>>> here, what the duties of PMC members are and, with respect to that, what
>>> the specific responsibilities of the Chair are and what the special
>>> standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried out.
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>>>
>>> The PMC chair is a position of responsibility (to the PMC and Board)
>>> rather than authority over the PMC.
>>>
>>> >  - Dennis
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:36
>>> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
>>> >
>>> > Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next
>>> > tasks is to identify a PMC Chair.
>>> >
>>> > You can read about the duties of a PMC Chair here:
>>> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>>> >
>>> > How do we want to do this?
>>> >
>>> > A strawman proposal:
>>> >
>>> > 1) Nominations would be open for 72 hours.  Anyone can nominate
>>> > someone for the role.  Self-nominations are fine.  And of course
>>> > nominations can be declined.
>>> >
>>> > 2) If there is only one nomination, then we are done, provided there
>>> > are no sustained objections.
>>> >
>>> > 3) If there is more than one nomination we discuss on the list for
>>> > another 72 hours.  Discussion would primarily be on ooo-dev, but some
>>> > subjects might be directed to ooo-private.
>>> >
>>> > 4) If after 72-hours discussion there are still two or more nominees
>>> > then we vote.  Everyone would be welcome to vote, but binding votes
>>> > would be from PPMC members.  If there are more than 2 candidates we
>>> > would probably need to use a more complicated voting system, or have a
>>> > run-off vote if none of the nominees receive an outright majority.
>>> >
>>> > Any improvements or alternatives to this basic scheme?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > -Rob
>>> >
>>>
>>>



-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

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