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From drew <d...@baseanswers.com>
Subject Re: What to say in AOO 3.4.1 release announcement about the ports? (BSD, Solaris, OS/2)?
Date Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:30:17 GMT
On Sat, 2012-08-18 at 18:53 +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 08/18/2012 06:34 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> > Am 08/18/2012 04:38 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> >> Am 08/18/2012 04:19 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Am 08/18/2012 02:48 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 08/18/2012 06:38 AM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am 08/02/2012 02:12 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:37 PM, drew<drew@baseanswers.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 18:28 -0400, Rob Weir
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:24 PM, drew
> >>>>>>>>>>> jensen<drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 09:09 -0700, Pedro
Giffuni wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kay;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I did some basic update to the FreeBSD
porting site sometime
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ago:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/freebsd/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The site doesn't seem linked from
the top-level porting site
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would prefer to spend my time
on the code rather than on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> announcement, however feel free
to mention explicitly the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> port.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just to make it clear: we still
have some cleanup to do but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> port is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fully operational and FreeBSD users
are fully aware that it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on FreeBSD releases.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Then for BSD it should be enough to
just point to the page you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> updated,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> yes?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, we should consolidate all the porting
links onto that one
> >>>>>>>>>>> page.
> >>>>>>>>>>> That way it gives one clear place to link
to in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> announcement,
> >>>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>>> also a single place we can link to from
other places in the
> >>>>>>>>>>> future.
> >>>>>>>>>>> For example, we should probably eventually
have a link to the
> >>>>>>>>>>> porting
> >>>>>>>>>>> page from the download page.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> hmmm - well, I'm just getting around to looking
at things for
> >>>>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>>>> evening.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Looking at the page(s) now... *chuckling*..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This might not be the right place for what I
thought was the
> >>>>>>>>>> task - a
> >>>>>>>>>> list of existing known ports which are not part
of the official
> >>>>>>>>>> AOO
> >>>>>>>>>> release regiment.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The porting page and it's associated pages seem
more about the
> >>>>>>>>>> act of
> >>>>>>>>>> creating a port, with
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_overview.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/porting/porting_implement.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> which starts off by pointing to this page:
> >>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Porting_Efforts
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> and that offers links to places such as
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/udk/cpp/man/cpp_bridges.html
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So do we really want a page for listing existing
non-official
> >>>>>>>>>> ports
> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> are known, a simple information service for
our users without and
> >>>>>>>>>> explicitly stating such, endorsing the work
- or do we want a
> >>>>>>>>>> resource
> >>>>>>>>>> for those wanting to perform a port to a new
platform - for the
> >>>>>>>>>> announcement(s) that is.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes. ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Maybe the existing porting page remains as a developer-focused
> >>>>>>>>> page?
> >>>>>>>>> It needs to be updated, of course, but maybe not
as urgent.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Then we also need a user-facing page about existing
ports. Maybe
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> could be a new page in the /download directory?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is already a page which points to 3rd party software
/
> >>>>>>>> packages:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/non_ASF.html
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kay has created this to compensate the old distribution
webpage
> >>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>> was totally outdated.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So, what about to extend this new page with a "Ports"
section from
> >>>>>>>> FreeBSD, Solaris, OS/2 and others?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> For the announcement the user-facing one would be
the most
> >>>>>>>>> appropriate, yes?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think so.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Marcus
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Morning All;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just checking in on this thread to see if there has been
any
> >>>>>>> consensus
> >>>>>>> on how we should do this or if we should. As we are fast
approaching
> >>>>>>> release of 3.4.1 I would like to get this into the Release
Notes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As a stated bore I believe that it is important to get the
> >>>>>>> information
> >>>>>>> out that these operating systems are not forgotten and that
Apache
> >>>>>>> OpenOffice is available.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As I haven't seen any different let's add these OSs with a
> >>>>>> statement to
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> "non_ASF.html" webpage.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The announcement current links to: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is that the wrong place? That URL is the top listing if someone
> >>>>> searches Google for "openoffice ports.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe not wrong but IMHO totally oudated since months and years and
> >>>> needs
> >>>> also a clean-up. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> IMHO, It is almost always better to clean up (or replace) an existing
> >>> page at a well-known URL than to create an entirely new page at a new
> >>> URL. Why? Because the existing page is already linked to, both
> >>> internally and externally. So if we think the new content is relevant
> >>> to the purpose of the old webpage, e.g., information on ports, then we
> >>> should keep the old URL for it.
> >>
> >> Sure.
> >>
> >> Maybe we can make a deal, so that everybody has a little task:
> >>
> >> - I'll clean-up the porting homepage (at least the starting page)
> >> - Drew is adding text for the ports to the other webpage
> >> - I'll add this text also to the porting homepage
> >> - and you just need to keep the link in the announcement ;-)
> >
> > I've updated the starting webpage at
> > "http://www.openoffice.org/porting/index.html":
> 
> Ahm, it's still in the stageing area:
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/porting/index.html
> 
> Marcus

Howdy,

Great - updated the page at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/non_ASF.html
with the winpenpack info also.

//drew


> 
> 
> > @Maho,Pedro,Yuri,Nicolas:
> >
> > Like stated with the other ports I would like to list your name and mail
> > address (if available, the Apache addresses):
> >
> > - OpenSolaris by Adfinis SyGroup AG (Nicolas Christener)
> > - Solaris (Sparc and x86) by Adfinis SyGroup AG (Nicolas Christener)
> > - FreeBSD by Pedro Giffuni / Maho Nakata
> > - OS/2 by Yuri Dario
> >
> > Is this OK for you?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Marcus
> 



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