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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
Date Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:58:54 GMT
@sebb

Yes, what you say about the position of the Chair (and also how the chair accomplishes that
as an officer of the ASF) was what I had in mind.

With regard to the PPMC, here is a roster of the *current* PPMC (subject to corrections anyone
notices):

    Kai Ahrens : kahrens PPMC
    Florent André : florent PPMC
    Dave Barton : bmcs PPMC
    Mathias Bauer : mbauer PPMC
    Cyril Beaussier : bidouille PPMC
    Stephan Bergmann : sb PPMC
    Raphael Bircher : rbircher PPMC
    Simon Brouwer : simonbr PPMC
    Arthur Buijs : artietee PPMC
    Jin Hua Chen : chenjinh PPMC
    Jian Hong Cheng : chengjh PPMC
    Ariel Constenla-Haile : arielch PPMC
    Yuri Dario : ydario PPMC
    Hagar Delest : hagar PPMC
    Herbert Dürr : hdu PPMC
    Claudio Filho : filhocf PPMC
    Andre Fischer : af PPMC
    David Fisher : wave PPMC
    Thomas J. Frazier : tj PPMC
    Roberto Galoppini : galoppini PPMC
    Pedro Giffuni : pfg PPMC
    Wolf Halton : wolfhalton PPMC
    Dennis E. Hamilton : orcmid PPMC
    Don Harbison : dpharbison PPMC
    Regina Henschel : regina PPMC
    Ivo Hinkelmann : ivo PPMC
    Kazunari Hirano : khirano PPMC
    Martin Hollmichel : mhollmichel PPMC
    Jim Jagielski : jim PPMC
    Drew Jensen : atjensen PPMC
    Christoph Jopp : cjopp PPMC
    Damjan Jovanovic : damjan PPMC
    Peter Junge : pj PPMC
    Yegor Kozlov : yegor PPMC
    Marcus Lange : marcus PPMC
    Graham Lauder : yo PPMC
    Armin Le Grand : alg PPMC
    Steve Lee : stevelee PPMC
    Wang Lei : leiw PPMC
    Christian Lippka : clippka PPMC
    Ian Lynch : ingotian PPMC
    Yong Lin Ma : mayongl PPMC
    Carl Marcum : cmarcum PPMC
    David McKay : thegurkha PPMC
    Ingrid von der Mehden : ingrid PPMC
    Antón Méixome : meixome PPMC
    Maho Nakata : maho PPMC
    Albino  Neto : bino28 PPMC
    Andrea Pescetti : pescetti PPMC
    Frank Thomas Peters : fpe PPMC
    Allen Pulsifer : apulsifer PPMC
    Eike Rathke : erack PPMC
    Manfred Reiter : fredao PPMC
    Zoltán Reizinger : r4zoli PPMC
    RGB.ES : rgb-es PPMC
    Phillip Rhodes : prhodes PPMC
    Andrew Rist : arist PPMC
    Lawrence Rosen : lrosen PPMC
    Roberto Salomon : salomon PPMC
    Juan C. Sanz : jucasaca PPMC
    Kay Schenk : kschenk PPMC
    Jürgen Schmidt : jsc PPMC
    Yang Shih-Ching : imacat PPMC
    Jomar Silva : homembit PPMC
    Kai Sommerfeld : kso PPMC
    Louis Suárez-Potts : louis PPMC
    Stefan Taxhet : st PPMC
    Malte Timmermann : malte PPMC
    Zhe Wang : wangzcdl PPMC
    Rob Weir : robweir PPMC
    Oliver-Rainer Wittmann : orw PPMC
    Jian Fang Zhang : zhangjf PPMC
    Xia Zhao : lilyzhao PPMC

-----Original Message-----
From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:17
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamilton@acm.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process

On 23 August 2012 19:22, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> I suggest that the initial Project Management Committee (PMC) needs to be identified
before the election of a Chair from that body is undertaken.

The initial proposed PMC for other podlings has usually been taken
from the PPMC membership, but dropping any inactive (or unwilling)
members.

> Also, this seems like a very good time to review, for the benefit of all here, what the
duties of PMC members are and, with respect to that, what the specific responsibilities of
the Chair are and what the special standing of the Chair is so its accountability can be carried
out.

http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

The PMC chair is a position of responsibility (to the PMC and Board)
rather than authority over the PMC.

>  - Dennis
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:36
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Proposed PMC Chair nomination process
>
> Now that the community graduation ballot has passed, one of our next
> tasks is to identify a PMC Chair.
>
> You can read about the duties of a PMC Chair here:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> How do we want to do this?
>
> A strawman proposal:
>
> 1) Nominations would be open for 72 hours.  Anyone can nominate
> someone for the role.  Self-nominations are fine.  And of course
> nominations can be declined.
>
> 2) If there is only one nomination, then we are done, provided there
> are no sustained objections.
>
> 3) If there is more than one nomination we discuss on the list for
> another 72 hours.  Discussion would primarily be on ooo-dev, but some
> subjects might be directed to ooo-private.
>
> 4) If after 72-hours discussion there are still two or more nominees
> then we vote.  Everyone would be welcome to vote, but binding votes
> would be from PPMC members.  If there are more than 2 candidates we
> would probably need to use a more complicated voting system, or have a
> run-off vote if none of the nominees receive an outright majority.
>
> Any improvements or alternatives to this basic scheme?
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>


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