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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: Office to Become Fully Open XML Compliant (at last)
Date Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:24:52 GMT
Is it similar to the way that RTF 1.6 is now frozen but there are extension mechanisms that
don't require change to the RTF specification itself?

It was startling for me to notice that RTF anticipated the functionality of OOXML Markup Compatibility
and Extensibility (MCE).

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 16:09
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Office to Become Fully Open XML Compliant (at last)


On Aug 14, 2012, at 3:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com> wrote:
>> FYI. /Larry
>> 
> 
> It is great to read about the improved ODF support, including ODF 1.2,
> with OpenFormula and digital signature support.  Those are two of the
> major additions we made in ODF 1.2.  The other was adding RDFa/RDF XML
> support, which neither OpenOffice nor MS Office support. ( But there
> is some support in Calligra Suite).
> 
> OOXML Strict was a concession to ISO National Bodies, a last ditch
> effort invented in a conference room in Geneva to pacify delegates at
> the Ballot Resolution Meeting.  I was there.  I saw it.  There may be
> specialized applications where OOXML Strict support is useful, such as
> a format that a document generation application can target.  But for
> AOO, and for any other editor that cannot control the formats of input
> documents,  we need to be prepared to handle whatever users toss to
> us, and that includes OOXML from Office 2007 and 2010, as well as
> 2013.

Along with the changes that happen in "parallel" in the Mac Office 2008 and 2011 ...

BTW - MSFT has been sneaking OOXML into the Binary formats in "interesting" ways ...

Regards,
Dave

> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lawrence Rosen
>> 
>> Rosenlaw & Einschlag, a technology law firm ( <http://www.rosenlaw.com>
www.rosenlaw.com)
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> From: Andy Updegrove [mailto:Andrew.Updegrove@gesmer.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:53 AM
>> To: andrew.updegrove@gesmer.com
>> Subject: Office to Become Fully Open XML Compliant (at last)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Between 2005 and 2008, an unparalleled standards war was waged between
>> Microsoft, on the one hand, and IBM, Google, Oracle and additional
>> companies on the other hand. At the heart of the battle were two document
>> formats, one called ODF, developed by OASIS, a standards development
>> consortium, and Open XML, a specification developed by Microsoft. Both
>> were submitted to, and adopted by, global standards groups ISO/IEC.
>> 
>> But after the dust settled, Microsoft did not fully implement the standard
>> that it had fought so vigorously to have become a global standard.
>> Instead, it implemented what it called "Transitional Open XML," which was
>> better adapted for use in connection with documents created using older
>> versions of Office.
>> 
>> According to a blog posted yesterday by Jim Thatcher at the Office Next Web
>> site, Office 13 will - finally - permit users to open, edit and save
>> documents in the format that ISO/IEC approved. Thatcher says that Office
>> 13 will also provide similar capabilities for the latest version of ODF,
>> approved by OASIS in January of this year (ODF 1.2), as well as for PDF.
>> 
>> Much has changed since the great format wars of the last decade, and
>> perhaps this is why, one day after the announcement, the announcement has
>> been mentioned in only two brief articles in the trade press. That’s a
>> shame, because document interoperability and vendor neutrality matter more
>> now than ever before as paper archives disappear and literally all of human
>> knowledge is entrusted to electronic storage.
>> 
>> Only if documents can be easily exchanged and reliably accessed down ton an
>> ongoing basis will desktop competition in the present be preserved, and the
>> availability of knowledge down through the ages be assured.  Without
>> robust, universally adopted document formats, both of those goals are
>> impossible to attain.
>> 
>> Read the entire story here: http://tinyurl.com/czwwke9
>> 
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>> 
>> Andy
>> 
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