Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 612A8D777 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 83926 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2012 22:52:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83870 invoked by uid 500); 12 Jul 2012 22:52:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 83860 invoked by uid 99); 12 Jul 2012 22:52:36 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:52:36 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of gcaiod-ooo-dev@m.gmane.org designates 80.91.229.3 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.91.229.3] (HELO plane.gmane.org) (80.91.229.3) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:52:29 +0000 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SpSEy-0002hN-7x for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:52:08 +0200 Received: from s01060017f230fe58.mj.shawcable.net ([70.64.203.213]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:52:08 +0200 Received: from larry.gusaas by s01060017f230fe58.mj.shawcable.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:52:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org From: Larry Gusaas Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:51:57 -0600 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <4FFDEE8C.1090106@laposte.net> <4FFDFF6B.1000908@wtnet.de> <1342046357.44984.YahooMailNeo@web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FFF1FBB.5050704@laposte.net> <1342120001.58641.YahooMailNeo@web160904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1342120790.97073.YahooMailNeo@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4FFF3B41.2010609@laposte.net> <4FFF41E7.3050809@apache.org> <1342129719.83890.YahooMailNeo@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: s01060017f230fe58.mj.shawcable.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 In-Reply-To: <1342129719.83890.YahooMailNeo@web160903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> On 2012-07-12 3:48 PM Joe Schaefer wrote: > Hello? Is this thing on? This project has a whopping > 9GB website that all of maybe 5 people on the planet > know how to takecare of, and it is rife with stale > information inherited from a different past. The website > is a*community* resource and that means*everyone* is > responsible for its upkeep. You should be working hard > to ensure that*everyone* is capable of fixing it, not > making exceptions for certain committers just because > they do special things for you in other areas. Anyone > can use the CMS to submit a patch, and had Hagar done > at least that much I wouldn't have anything to gripe about. > > > The technology that facilitates website maintenance happens > to be a CMS, but really it is no more challenging to work with > than the average wiki. Get over it, it's not a technological > barrier for anyone capable of using a web browser, that means > Hagar is part of the intended user base, despite his attitude > towards it. The tone, if not the intention, of your posts is extremely insulting and condescending. Hagar gives a lot of time to this project and he spends it in areas that he has expertise in. Do you think every committer should learn how to program and fix code? Your unreasonable demand of Hagar is the equivalent of that. Hagar deserves an apology from you. This project needs people like him. Personally, if I was a committer, I would tell you where to stick it. -- _________________________________ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese