Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C79295B3 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 13:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78910 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2012 13:19:03 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78717 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2012 13:19:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78699 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2012 13:19:02 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:19:02 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vc0-f175.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:19:02 +0000 Received: by vcbfl15 with SMTP id fl15so4162386vcb.6 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 06:19:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.108.15 with SMTP id d15mr8165175vcp.37.1341321541522; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 06:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.190.13 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 06:19:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120703125835.GG11338@michaelsen.dyndns.org> References: <20120703111756.GE11338@michaelsen.dyndns.org> <20120703125835.GG11338@michaelsen.dyndns.org> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:19:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CWS swbookmarkfixes01 rebasing and licensing From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Hi Rob, > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 07:53:25AM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > back in my Oracle days I did some work in CWS swbookmarkfixes01 which would >> > be convenient not having to recreate. According to: >> > >> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTikvBFNr1ViwqYw1+sPZf68ZX5GZ7g@mail.gmail.com%3E >> > >> > ownership of the CWS is now at ASF. So two simple questions: >> > >> >> Where do you read that? I don't see that statement. I see Andrew >> saying, "We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in >> the OOo repositories." "Trying" is not the same as an SGA. I'm >> trying to lose weight. But I can assure you my doctor will trust what >> the scale says more than my stated intentions. > > Your aggressive tone isnt helpful here, but if you want it like that -- fine: > If you are "trying" to clarify the situation, you fail badly. You can easily > correct that: Just state what exactly is covered by a SGA -- I can then ask > Oracle directly to grant the rights for the stuff that is missing. As it, you > make it appear as if the AOO project has no clue what parts of the old OOo code > it actually owns. > Sorry, I thought you knew about the SGA(s) already. The files covered by the Oracle SGA(s) are listed here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/pmc/ip-review/ That is what was granted to Apache. Our 3.4 release was based on that SGA, using the trunk version of those files. That is what we released under ALv2. So in that sense the project very much has a clue what is covered by ALv2. We did an extensive audit of this. I don't think it is advisable to speculate beyond that, concerning terms on files not included in the SGA, or terms on other revisions of those files. What you need in that case is competent legal advice, not some non-expert comment from someone on a mailing list. Or talk to Oracle. Regards, -Rob