Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C2A295BE for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:55:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 96651 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2012 16:55:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96587 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jul 2012 16:55:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 96578 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jul 2012 16:55:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:55:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [208.113.200.5] (HELO homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com) (208.113.200.5) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 16:55:27 +0000 Received: from homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E833A11806F; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [151.67.108.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andrea@pescetti.it) by homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4268411805C; Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50083BE5.3040106@apache.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:55:01 +0200 From: Andrea Pescetti User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111108 Fedora/3.1.16-1.fc14 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default? References: <20366745.13095301342598042606.JavaMail.rjaaskel@saunalahti.fi> <5007D101.4080209@googlemail.com> <500825C2.9080708@saunalahti.fi> In-Reply-To: <500825C2.9080708@saunalahti.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Risto J=E4=E4skel=E4inen wrote: > Supposing that quickstarter is working without any faults there is stil= l > a time stealing hiding in it. Those users who use OpenOffice only once > and while lost a bit their working time every day they start their > computer and not use use OpenOffice at that session. Yes, but what we should focus on is how easy it is for affected users to=20 change behavior. And here having Quickstarter enabled by default shows a=20 clear benefit. Users who have Quickstarter enabled and wish to disable it must simply=20 right-click on the icon and uncheck "Load during system start-up". Very=20 clear and easy. This is probably what saved us from thousands of reports=20 of https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3D119102 : for once,=20 users were able to figure out how to workaround a bug themselves (of=20 course, disabling Quickstarter was just a workaround, but it worked). Users who have Quickstarter disabled and wish to enable it must: know or=20 imagine that it exists, open the Options, find it in the jungle of=20 options (under "Memory", by the way)... Since it is much simpler to disable than enable, and since most clueless=20 users will benefit from having it enabled by default, I'd definitely=20 keep it enabled. Especially now that the related bug is fixed. Regards, Andrea.