Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62FB2D6AE for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27934 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jul 2012 11:21:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27836 invoked by uid 500); 11 Jul 2012 11:21:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27822 invoked by uid 99); 11 Jul 2012 11:21:08 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:21:08 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [194.25.134.19] (HELO mailout06.t-online.de) (194.25.134.19) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:21:02 +0000 Received: from fwd19.aul.t-online.de (fwd19.aul.t-online.de ) by mailout06.t-online.de with smtp id 1SouyG-0002zF-An; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:20:40 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.23] (SOFqN2ZUohesCedEvN0OSd2zWOqKNa5184RdUlWFbqoWH8xycYUrFsA1Xw36eCxZFn@[87.161.162.240]) by fwd19.t-online.de with esmtp id 1SouyF-122TAm0; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:20:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFD6184.5010902@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:20:36 +0200 From: Regina Henschel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE] Next Release - 3.4.2? 3.5? 4.0? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ID: SOFqN2ZUohesCedEvN0OSd2zWOqKNa5184RdUlWFbqoWH8xycYUrFsA1Xw36eCxZFn X-TOI-MSGID: bb5daeea-cd7c-40af-b649-62fcbb534d5d X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi all, Shenfeng Liu schrieb: > Hi, all, > Since we are stepping forward to the 3.4.1 release smoothly, I think > maybe it is time for us to look ahead for our next release now. > > I remember we had a discussion previously on how to run AOO's future > releases, time boxed vs content boxed, 3.4.1 vs 3.5 vs 4.0... I think we > should resume this discussion. > > IMHO, timely release will give AOO a very good promotion to marketing. > Certainly we can decide the size of the release. We released 3.4 at May 8, > and then will release 3.4.1 after about 3 months. It looks like a very good > rhythm. Maybe we can consider a 3.4.2 in 4Q, 3.5 in 1Q next year... > > Another way to consider is the release contents. Checking the feature > requirement list and defect backlog, see what we can make after 3 months or > 6 months. Or if there is any thing must be in the next release no matter > how long it will take (e.g. security fix). We partially did this practice > before by collecting the 4.0 requirements in wiki: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Feature+Planning. > And I remember there was a common interesting at that time that we > should > do an immediate release for critical defect fixes (which is 3.4.1 that we > are doing now), and then a mid-term release which majorly target to > fidelity improvements (3.5), and a long term release with Symphony values > on UX and social integrations (4.0)... > > I'm not sure how to do a release proposal. Is that we should create a > project wiki and discuss the release goals, contents, outlook GA date? And > if we agree on this release, we move on. If we do not agree, we abandon it? > > I'm asking because I want to propose that: > > (1) We should begin to check if any critical defects in our backlog that > require us for a 3.4.2. > > (2) We should begin to discuss a bigger release like 3.5 on the release > goals, and proposed contents, and the release number... > > Just my 2 cents... Any suggestion/comments? I thought it might be useful to look in the history and have extracted some dates from http://ftp-1.gwdg.de/pub/openoffice/archive/stable/ OOo 1.0.2 2003-03-14 OOo 1.0.3 2003-04-18 OOo 1.1.0 2003-10-14 OOo 1.1.4secpatch 2005-04-12 OOo 1.1.5 2005-09-04 OOo 1.1.5secpatch 2006-07-04 OOo 1.1.5secpatch2 2006-12-22 OOo 2.1.0 2006-12-14 OOo 2.2.0 2007-03-22 OOo 2.2.1 2007-06-04 OOo 2.3.0 2007-07-14 OOo 2.3.1 2007-11-15 OOo 2.4.0 2008-03-16 OOo 2.4.1 2008-05-30 OOo 2.4.2 2008-10-27 OOo 2.4.3 2009-08-24 OOo 3.0.0 2008-10-06 OOo 3.0.1 2009-01-26 OOo 3.1.0 2009-05-04 OOo 3.1.1 2009-08-20 OOo 3.2.0 2010-02-03 OOo 3.2.1 2010-05-26 OOo 3.3.0 2011-01-18 OOo 3.4beta 2011-04-07 We had the first -release after around 3 month. The next ones when needed, with support of the last -release up to 1 year 3 month. We had -releases all 9 month (around) and -release 3 years 9 months from OOo1 to OOo2 and 1 year 10 months form OOo2 to OOo3. We have to consider, that the development is no longer enterprise driven and that there are less translators as before. Kind regards Regina