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From Christian Grobmeier <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Are you ready to graduate?
Date Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:08:09 GMT
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Marcus (OOo) <> wrote:
> Am 07/16/2012 08:57 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <>  wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> as a mentor of this project it is my impression that this podling is
>>> ready to graduate.
>>> This is surely a project with much heat in it; but I also think it is
>>> stable. The project made a release and constantly voted in new
>>> committers/ppmc members. It is active and has proven that it can make
>>> decisions by discussions.
>>> As mentors we have stepped into many discussions and told what we
>>> think. But now it seems to me there is nothing we can bring to you.
>>> The culture here is settled. You guys know whom to ask and where to go
>>> if problems occur.
>>> Looking at this:
>>> it seems everything is done.
>>> My questions to you all as a project:
>>> Do you feel ready to graduate?
>>> Are you able to vote a chair?
>>> Do you think your project is ready?
>>> If you can answer all the questions above with "yes" I would love to
>>> see graduation actions/discussions as mentioned here:
>> We discussed this in a thread a month or so ago.  I think the answer
>> was yes, but with two concerns on the timing:
>> 1) There was some category-b per-requisite components that we had in
>> SVN.  At least one project member thought this needed to be done
>> before graduation. The plan was to move them to Apache Extras.  But
>> doing so would break the build in AOO 3.4 release.  So we agreed to
>> fix this in AOO 3.4.1.
>> 2) Some of us wanted to avoid the distraction of a graduation vote at
>> the same time as the 3.4.1 release, a time when we're really
>> heads-down on the release end game..  Especially if this would lead to
>> disruptive naming changes that would have an impact on product UI
>> and/or release communications due to changing URL's and email
>> addresses, etc.
>> So the discussion at that time was to push for AOO 3.4.1 release by
>> end of July and then start the graduation proceedings.
>> Of course, I'm not saying this is set in stone. But that was the
>> outcome of the prior discussion.
> I also think that this would interfer the last phase of creating and
> publishing 3.4.1 is not so good (even if graduation is of course a very
> positive event ;-) ). So +1 to wait a few weeks more when the 3.4.1 release
> is done and some dust has settled.

There is no hurry of course.
In any case, I think it would be good to mention the plan on the next report.


> Marcus


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