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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page
Date Fri, 27 Jul 2012 00:39:29 GMT
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dave Brondsema <dbrondsema@geek.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>> > >> >> <drewjensen.inbox@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> > >> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>> > >> >> >> > Hi Rob,
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo
MirrorBrain page
>> > is
>> > >> >> still
>> > >> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes
to use it as a
>> > >> fail-over
>> > >> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other
times
>> fails
>> > >> and it
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works
>> sometimes
>> > - I
>> > >> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works
for me
>> > other
>> > >> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain
links.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what
we
>> use
>> > on
>> > >> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
>> > >> >> da.openoffice.org
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.
 That is
>> > >> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are
>> working
>> > >> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that
are
>> > >> >> failing.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> -Rob
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > We seem to have MANY references to
>> download.services.openoffice.org
>> > >> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
>> > >> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Should we request this?
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
>> > >> update the HTML.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
>> > >> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do
to
>> > >> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
>> > >> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
>> > >> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set
of
>> > >> them) on ooo-site.
>> > >>
>> > >> -Rob
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
>> > > occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a
>> > mix
>> > > of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
>> > > could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what
>> about
>> > > the 3.2 references?
>> > >
>> >
>> > I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
>> > recent full month (June) the download counts were:
>> >
>> > OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
>> > OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
>> > OOo 3.2.0: 166
>> > OOo 3.1.0: 23
>> > OOo 3.0.1: 24
>> > OOo 3.0.0: 60
>> >
>> > (In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)
>> >
>> > So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
>> > used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.
>> >
>> > Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
>> > all languages/platforms?
>> >
>> >
>> Yes, I believe SF should have all the 3.3.0 files.  They should align with
>> existing directory structure too.  A few examples:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/hu/3.3.0/
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/packages/7/
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/extended/iso/en/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Brondsema
>> Principal Software Engineer - sf.net
>> Geeknet
>>
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> We could certainly change all the 3.2 references to 3.3 (at SourceForge) if
> that's your thinking. I'd need to check on the naming for 3.3 vs 3.2. It's
> doable...it would probably be better to do areas at a time rather than all
> at once.
>

I was thinking of something simpler:

1) fix the 3.3 links to point to SourceForge.

2) ignore the 3.2 links for now.  We can deal with them, if needed,
later.  But not as urgent

-Rob

-Rob

>
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