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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Suggestion - file format
Date Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:41:33 GMT
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 2:30 AM, Shenfeng Liu <liushenf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Considering this... Then I agree with Dennis that we should consult users
> for ODF format.
> But my concern is that it will look like Apache OpenOffice gives the same
> weight of support to ODF and MS Office format. But the truth is not...
>

"Best Practice" is something like this;

1) In install program wizard have a dialog that lists the file formats
that AOO could handle, and and show the user which formats we
recommend should be controlled by AOO.  Allow the user to modify that
list if they wish, before they confirm.   It is fine to give a
recommendation/default here that prefers ODF.  But we make sure the
user has the ability to change the defaults.

2) Each time we we start up AOO check to make sure we are the default
handler for ODF files.  If we are not, then prompt the user whether
they want to make AOO be the default handler.  This protects the user
if another application takes over our file extensions.   Also have an
option for the user to disable this check.

Maybe something to consider in 3.5 or 3.6?

-Rob



> - Simon
>
>
> 2012/7/12 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <andrew@pitonyak.org>
>
>>
>> I agree with Dennis, if there is already an association, ask. I frequently
>> use computers with more than one application that uses ODF file formats as
>> the default format.
>>
>> The problem, of course, is how to choose which to associate. For example,
>> off hand, the first thought is that you have an ODF for write, calc,
>> impress, base, and draw. Well, Write may be ODT or SXW (as an example).
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/11/2012 12:06 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> I am concerned that a bad behavior is being suggested.
>>>
>>> Considerations:
>>>
>>>   1. Apache OpenOffice does not "own" the ODF file-format extensions,
>>> ODT, ODP, ODS, etc.  (OpenOffice.org did not either.)
>>>
>>>   2. It is rude to take over those associations on install if they are
>>> already associated with a different application.
>>>
>>>   3. In case that the associations are found to already exist and not be
>>> for a version being updated, the associations should not be changed without
>>> consulting the user.  (This problem has already been encountered and
>>> handled well in cases where common multimedia extensions are supported by
>>> more than one application, such as Windows Media Player, Apple QuickTime,
>>> and RealPlayer.)
>>>
>>> There may be a way to register Apache OpenOffice as a secondary
>>> application that can be selected easily by Windows Users even when the
>>> default association is not to Apache OpenOffice.
>>>
>>>   - Dennis
>>>
>>> PS: The handling of the associations that are customarily associated with
>>> Microsoft Office file formats can be similar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shenfeng Liu [mailto:liushenf@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 07:52
>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Suggestion - file format
>>>
>>> My 2 cents:
>>> 1. OpenOffice should always associate the ODF files. No need to provide an
>>> option for user to check off. We can notify it during installation.
>>> 2. We should provide a check box for users to decide if he/she want
>>> OpenOffice to associate with MS Office format.
>>> 3. Setting MS Office format as default should not be encouraged (even
>>> purely from technical perspective, our data modal does not well match the
>>> MS Office format), but maybe we should keep the possibility in case any
>>> customer really want it (e.g. during the IT transition phase...). We can
>>> make it as a kind of customization that not as easy as you can find a
>>> place
>>> in UI to set it, but IT admin can config it before the deployment.
>>>
>>> - Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Andrew Pitonyak
>> My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/**AndrewMacro.odt<http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt>
>> Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
>>
>>
>>
>>

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