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From Donald Harbison <>
Subject Re: Some requests... ApacheCon and OpenOffice
Date Fri, 27 Jul 2012 19:45:32 GMT
Thanks Ross.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Ross Gardler

> The ApacheCon CFP closes on Aug 3rd. I'd like to float some ideas for
> sessions that I would love to see there. I'm not equipped to deliver
> sessions on AOO so I'm pitching them here in case someone wants to
> submit them. If I am interested then maybe others are too.
> First off, here's some info about the OpenOffice
> conference-within-a-conference:
> The CFP is at
> Note that there is travel assistance available to those who would be
> otherwise unable to attend. There is no guarantee of getting
> assistance as it is evaluated on a needs basis, but if your employer
> can't pay for your expenses you might want to consider applying for
> TAC, see
I've contacted TAC chair and will report back here wrt next steps and
procedures for reviewing/awarding
TAC support to members of the extended Apache OpenOffice family; i.e.
presenters, and participants
of our track at ACE.

> When I go to conferences I personally prefer sessions that are less
> about presentation and more about engaging with one another. So I'd
> love to see some sessions aimed at cross-project collaboration. One of
> the great things about Apache is the breadth of projects we have here.
> Cross-pollination is often valuable. Sessions designed to do this tend
> to be small, probably 2-5 people per project. The goal would be to
> explore the potential for collaboration between projects.
> Unfortunately, as I write we are not sure of how flexible the venue is
> in terms of space use (there is a site visit tomorrow) but we might be
> able to accomodate some intimate sessions like these. I'm hoping that
> we can create some smaller spaces to allow this kind of session to
> work.
> What we need is someone to own them. That means touch base with the
> projects in question and check someone will be there and then propose
> the session in the CFP. That someone will also need coordinate
> preparations and chair the sessions on the day. An example session
> (which is completely made up as an example I don't know if there is
> genuine value in this, but I'd like to explore it...)
> "OpenSocial implementations, such as Apache Shindig, open
> opportunities to share mini-applications across various platforms. If
> Apache OpenOffice were to embed Shindig services then it could provide
> social integration features such as messaging, collaborative research
> and expertise discovery. Such social applications could be integrated
> with document content and meta-data to provide automated
> cross-pollination opportunities (e.g. an activity stream that
> indicates Jane is working on a document that has some similar content
> to Joe's). Furthermore, by enabling such features using OpenSocial it
> becomes possible to extend AOO UI features into other applications
> that act as a host, such as dashboards built using Apache Rave or
> document management systems. Similar results can be achieved by
> adopting the W3C Widget packaging standards as implemented by Apache
> Wookie, also used in Rave.
Great example! I hope someone steps forward with a proposal in this arena.

> In this session we'll start with demonstrating the potential of some
> of these core technologies. The second half of the session will
> explore, in an interactive style, use-cases and opportunities for
> collaboration between projects represented by members of the audience.
> This session is therefore intended for developers familiar with social
> technologies and users who wished their office tools could integrate
> better with more recently developerd collaboration tools,"
> This would be a session for around 6-15 people. It might well lead to
> a subsequent hackathon session in which some proof-of-concepts are
> built (as it happens this is exactly what happened at OSCON when we
> got an Alfresco guy together with a Rave guy)
> I could imagine there being potential for a number of such sessions
> (CMIS, Semantic data and content searching all jump to mind for
> example). Pick your favourite topic, touch base with the appropriate
> project communities and send in a CFP. Sessions like these take much
> less time to prepare than full blown presentation and, personally, I
> find them more rewarding.
> I'd also love to see something on the A11Y opportunities with AOO4,
> thanks to the IA2 work in Symphony. As I understand it this is a
> non-trivial integration effort. This might be a great opportunity to
> build some momentum in something that typically attracts only a few
> developers. Such a session might spend as much time on *why* this is
> important in the general sense since most developers don't understand
> it beyond the moral justification of doing the right thing. For
> example, how many people here know that "Around 10 per cent of the
> world’s population, or 650 million people, live with a disability.
> They are the world’s largest minority." -
> It would also be great if someone could look back at the community
> history of OOo -> AOO (Juergen a little bird told me you are well
> placed for this...)  I'm not talking about looking at what went wrong
> in late Sun and Oracle days. That's old news, combatative and boring.
> I'm interested in hearing (from an old hand) what made OOo a success
> in the early days. How it managed to become so popular. I'd then like
> to hear what is good about the ASF, does it bring any of the good
> times aspects back? Are there good aspects you'd like to bring back?
> I'd like to think that such a presentation would have just one slide
> covering the "bad stuff" - something that just said "some things
> weren't so good - this led to a forking of the community" - AOO is one
> of the outcomes from that forking and we're doing great thank you -
> partly because the ASF has brought us...
> My last request (for today at least) is for someone to run a session
> on setting up a dev environment for AOO. Ideally this will go from a
> fresh Windows install in a VM to building AOO in its entirety.
> Furthermore it would be best for someone else to record this session
> using a screen recorder and later turn it into a online resource.
> I hope others can take the time to post their requests here and just
> as importantly, some nice developers submit the sessions for us ;-)
> --
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective

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