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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Terms of Service on Forums
Date Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:00:19 GMT
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:

> Dennis,
>
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I suggest that one not be so careless about asserting ASF copyright on
> third party materials.
> >
> > Why does this meme persist?
> >
> > Please consult Legal before doing anything so outrageous.
>
> You cc'd legal-discuss while cutting out much of this whole email
> completely destroying all context. (Please cc: ooo-dev since not all of us
> are going to subscribe to the list to participate in this discussion.)
>
> Context:
>
> IANAL, but I believe that the whole webpage with the project's own banner,
> footer and navigation can be copyright The ASF whether or not all content
> in between those elements may have another copyright or none.
>
> Often we don't know the copyright because Sun and Oracle did not keep
> these records together - there is a list of copyright holders but no way of
> knowing if their material is still in the site or not.
>
> We believe that we have implied consent to use all the material from
> Oracle that is on www.openoffice.org and related domains.
>
> Dennis thinks it is outrageous to have an ASF copyright on these combined
> web pages, what does legal-discuss think?
>
> If this should be or already is a LEGAL JIRA issue then I am fine
> discussing it there.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>

Dave --

This was discussed with legal in the past -- please see

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-104


>
> >
> > - Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:01
> > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums
> >
> >
> > On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
> >> I still think that we should just post an ASF copyright notice, and
> >> link to privacy and trademark policies.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> > [ ... ]
> >
>
>


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