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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default?
Date Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:25:44 GMT
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Kevin Grignon <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com>wrote:

> KG01 - see comments inline.
>
> On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, shzh zhao <aoo.zhaoshzh@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> The best way is giving a user an option when installing the software,
> >> in this step,let user enable or disable it.
> >>
> >
>
> KG01 - Perhaps we can include an 'enable' / 'disable' QuickStart option
> directly in the Help menu on the main menu.
>
> This location would ensure the commands persist, and are available in both
> states.
>
> Evoking the the quickstart menu option from the quickstart bar in the
> system tray would serve as contextual, redundant access. Again, enabling
> could be evoke by the commands in the help menu.
>

Well this is an interesting idea. I think this would be better placement
than where it is now -- Options -> Tools -> Memory.

I have it disabled on my version (and always have near as I remember) but I
do recall having a time trying to figure this out.

And, since I have had it disabled for ages, I don't recall if I got some
notice about it on "first" start up.


>
> > +1 for this idea if it can be done easily...I don't know what's involved
> so
> > it may not be possible for the upcoming 3.4.1.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> 2012/7/20 Andrea Pescetti <pescetti@apache.org>
> >>
> >>> Risto Jääskeläinen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Supposing that quickstarter is working without any faults there is
> still
> >>>> a time stealing hiding in it. Those users who use OpenOffice only once
> >>>> and while lost a bit their working time every day they start their
> >>>> computer and not use use OpenOffice at that session.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but what we should focus on is how easy it is for affected users
> to
> >>> change behavior. And here having Quickstarter enabled by default shows
> a
> >>> clear benefit.
> >>>
> >>> Users who have Quickstarter enabled and wish to disable it must simply
> >>> right-click on the icon and uncheck "Load during system start-up". Very
> >>> clear and easy. This is probably what saved us from thousands of
> reports
> >> of
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119102<
> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119102>: for once, users
> >> were able to figure out how to workaround a bug
> >>> themselves (of course, disabling Quickstarter was just a workaround,
> but
> >> it
> >>> worked).
> >>>
> >>> Users who have Quickstarter disabled and wish to enable it must: know
> or
> >>> imagine that it exists, open the Options, find it in the jungle of
> >> options
> >>> (under "Memory", by the way)...
> >>>
> >>> Since it is much simpler to disable than enable, and since most
> clueless
> >>> users will benefit from having it enabled by default, I'd definitely
> keep
> >>> it enabled. Especially now that the related bug is fixed.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>  Andrea.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *
> >>
> >>
> >> mailto: *aoo.zhaoshzh@gmail.com <https://google.com/profiles>
> >> <https://google.com/profiles>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
> > than a horse that will not fare."
> >                                          -- Portuguese proverb
>



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