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From RGB ES <>
Subject Re: Improving the Open Office Toolbars
Date Sat, 28 Jul 2012 12:53:24 GMT
2012/7/28 Kevin Grignon <>:
> KG01 - see comments inline.
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:40 AM, "Mike Buzzard" <> wrote:
>> Hi
>> I would really like it if you could make Open Office's Toolbars better:
>> better, even than any toolbars, ribbons, etc!
> KG01 - Indeed. Over time, toolbars can begin to feel overloaded.
>> I don't like Microsoft's Ribbon system!
>> I have tried to follow your efforts to make Toolbars better, but not
>> succeeded.
> KG01 - What does "better" mean to you? No wrong answers here. I'm looking to work on
the toolbars in the next release and am gathering feedback.
>> However, Corel (in CorelDraw, PhotoPaint) have had a system for over a
>> decade which very nearly solves the problem.  Have a try with CorelDraw: the
>> toolbar changes depending on what you are doing, so nearly all the commands
>> available at any time are the ones on the toolbar that is showing.  It's so
>> simple!
> KG01 - Yes, CorelDRAW had contextual toolbars back in version 7. There were common toolbars
that persisted in the workspace, then toolbars that would appear contextual to the selection.
For example, selection text would evoke a text properties toolbar. This is a pattern that
AOO could explore to reduce complexity, minimize toolbar icon overload and present commands
that are contextual to the selected element.

OOo had (and AOO has) contextual toolbars since 2.0. For example, the
table toolbar on Writer will pop up only when you put the cursor
inside a table or the picture toolbar will be visible only when you
select a picture. By default, they tend to appear on not so useful
places, but that can be easily fixed by anchoring them.

>> It would be great if you could try to make it work with Open Office.
> KG01 - We could use your help. Watch the UX wiki for more on this topic and other UI
>> By the way, I have not put this idea forward before because I have not found
>> a way of doing it - every way of commenting seems to be so complicated.
> KG01 - Again, no wrong answers. What would be your ideal way to share product ideas and
>> Best wishes to all
>> Mike Buzzard

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