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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: Java download link on AOO site
Date Sat, 14 Jul 2012 18:04:05 GMT

On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest <hagar.delest@laposte.net
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java
>> points
>>>> to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE):
>>>> http://java.com/en/download/**manual.jsp<
>> http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp>).
>>>> We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and
>> AOO:
>>>> http://java.com/en/download/**manual_v6.jsp<
>> http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp>
>>>> 
>>>> Link is in the Documentation section, right of the page:
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/index.html<
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html>
>>>> 
>>>> Hagar
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> ummm...two things on this...
>>> 
>>> -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and
>>> ultimately resulted in this post  on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating
>>> that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues
>>> 
>>> http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3
>>> 
>>> -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they
>> have
>>> no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies
>> with
>>> whatever OS they are using.
>>> 
>>> Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to
>> version 6
>>> over 7.  Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this
>> downgrade,
>>> I don't know.
>>> 
>>> as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far.
>> 
>> FYI - I made the change that Hagar suggested. Please feel free to revert.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
> 
> OK, I will do some more investigation over the next day or so.
> 
> I would much prefer if we have something like a 90% success rate with java
> 7, to NOT revert back and  suggest java version 6.
> 
> Unfortunately, I have no "good" suggestions for how to actually quantify
> this.

The bug report has come in: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120275

I would suggest that we consider the following changes to the site:

(1) Remove the "Get the Java Runtime" selection from http://www.openoffice.org/download/

(2) Update the "Java & OpenOffice.org" page at http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html

- The page needs updates for Apache OpenOffice
- Explain which situation requires Java 1.6.
- Provide both the 1.6 and current links.

Thoughts? Does someone want to take a look and make changes. Any change you might make is
an improvement.

Patches are welcome!

Regards,
Dave



> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> PS. I wish people would not feel offended by criticism.
>> PPS. I wish more volunteers would CTR more about the site.
>> PPPS. There has been a lot of Review without results - eg. TOU and
>> forum.openoffice.org.
>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> MzK
>>> 
>>> "I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
>>> than a horse that will not fare."
>>>                                         -- Portuguese proverb
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
> 
> "I would rather have a donkey that takes me there
> than a horse that will not fare."
>                                          -- Portuguese proverb


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