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From Kevin Grignon <>
Subject Re: [CODE][UX] Bugs 25945 Show/Hide Scroll Bar Tips on Writer
Date Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:52:29 GMT
KG01 - See comments inline. 

On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile <> wrote:

> Hi Ricardo,
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:35:05PM +0200, RGB ES wrote:
>> Thanks, Ariel for moving on this issue.
>> I have a question, though: The fix also prevents other help tips to
>> show, is that right? Because the problem on Bug 25945 is only with the
>> box with the page number and heading name that shows when you scroll
>> the document: because I've never see anyone protesting for the other
>> tips, maybe the fix is a bit too much.
> The fix is only for the page number (the same information on the status
> bar control showing "Page N/N") displayed near the scroll bar; that is,
> only for the bug description: "Allow disabling of tooltip on mousewheel
> scroll".
KG01 - Having the system provide feedback to orient the user and support way finding in the
context of a scroll gesture is goodness. While the information may be presented in a tooltip-like
presentation, system status is different than a tooltip from an information design perspective.

While I am reluctant to encourage the creation of too many options, in this case, differentiating
the tool tip content from status indicators/system status seems reasonable. Perhaps other
popups could be clustered in the new category. 

In this case we could explore evoking the scroll status indicator via a right click of the
"Page n/n" in the status bar. 

More broadly, we may want to explore how the system presents a tooltip vs status from a visual
design perspective. Perhaps we could reinforce the categories and information popup types
using some visual contrast. 

Full disclosure: I'm not at my system right now so, I'm working from memory of the behavior


> Tips displayed the mouse pointer is over the document content are
> already handled in an undocumented way, see bug
> There is already
> a property named "PreventHelpTips", I plan to rename it to
> "ShowContentTips" because it describes better what it does:
> --- a/main/offapi/com/sun/star/text/ViewSettings.idl
> +++ b/main/offapi/com/sun/star/text/ViewSettings.idl
> @@ -349,6 +349,13 @@ published service ViewSettings
>         @since OOo 3.1
>      */
>    [optional, property] long VerticalRulerMetric;
> +    //-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> +    /** If this property is <TRUE/>, tips for document content are shown,
> +        typically in a help balloon when the mouse is over the content.
> +
> +        @since Apache OpenOffice 3.5
> +     */
> +    [optional, property] boolean ShowContentTips;
> };
> In short, there will be two separated options:
> - scroll bar tips
> - document content tips
>> When the problem arise on the forums, I always recommend the
>> workaround on Comment 9.
> The workaround is a little drastic, it will turn off all help tips. With
> the proposed solution there are separate settings.
> Regards
> -- 
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina

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