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From Joe Schaefer <>
Subject Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
Date Wed, 18 Jul 2012 14:31:27 GMT
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> From: Jürgen Schmidt <>
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

> If Hagar really step back and won't continue his great job it will be a
> big lost. We appreciate your work and what you did for the
> infrastructure, the CMS and everything else you do here or for other
> projects. But in this special case you completely failed and it is even
> more worse because you are a mentor. I am sure that nobody in this
> project (excepting other mentors who are surprisingly quite) support
> what you have done or better how you have tried to address this. But I
> hope that you have learned your lesson as well from this.

Let's explore this then, because I don't see why I should feel intimidated
by how someone might respond to a challenge to do more.  Here is how my
original email in this thread described Hagar's "behavior":

    "Other citizens might see the trash but instead of tackling the problem
    themselves, ask another park visitor to clean it up.  Not a bad thing
    to do, but a little bit imposing on the other visitors of the park.
    Those people might wonder about why the original citizen did not clean
    up the trash themselves, but occasionally you come across citizens
    who are happy to just honor the unusual request without issue."

I fail to see how describing Hagar's behavior as "not a bad thing to do"
should trigger a drastic action from Hagar like resigning his responsibilities
from this project.  He seems to be reading far more into what I've written,
and no this thread wasn't meant to be primarily about him at all.

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