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From drew <d...@baseanswers.com>
Subject Re: Terms of Service on Forums
Date Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:42:14 GMT
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 12:27 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
> 
> <snip>
> 
> >> > <orcmid>
> >> >   This might need to be separated for what the agreement is when people
> >> >   register/subscribe and provide information solicited to accomplish
> >> >   that.
> >> >     This seems like too broad an umbrella for what happens when folks
> >> >   register versus what happens when accessing sites versus what happens
> >> >   when sending an e-mail somewhere.
> >> > </orcmid>
> >> >
> >>
> >> It would be good to link to the ToU from any registration.  But note
> >> that we don't always have that access where it is a shared Apache
> >> service, for example CWiki.
> >>
> >> Nothing in the ToU speaks about emails, so that is red herring.
> >
> > A red herring? I don't think so - why should it only be valid if already
> > there. The site references our mailing lists and certainly did, likely
> > still does, IMO a comment on the public nature of mailing lists is
> > really appropriate here.
> >
> 
> The point is this:  a user can contribute to the mailing list without
> ever having visited the website.  So posting ToU for the mailing list
> on a website is not going to really have any legal or even advisory
> effect.    One thing that we could do is put ToU in the confirmation
> note we send to new list subscribers.   Or even a link to a
> consolidated ToU on the website if that is how we do it.
> 
> In any case, most of the ToU is in the nature of a notice:  we are
> telling the user what will are doing, what we can do, and what we will
> do under certainly conditions.  The main exception, where we are
> demanding something of the user, is if where we require a licence on
> their contributions.  So that is the one thing where we cannot be
> casual.  If we want to have an incoming licence on contributions that
> really needs to be baked into registration systems, list
> acknowledgement emails, etc.

Well, I agree that this is a notice - I still feel it would appropriate
to mention mailing list.

What I've done just now is simply to move your text verbatim to the wiki
- I'll add a paragraph for what I think is an apt way to address this.
Give a read to that, and if you or anyone else thinks it's just our of
place, well, that's why it's a white board, right ;-)


//drew
> 
> -Rob
> 



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