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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org>
Subject RE: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
Date Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:17:28 GMT
The following text is boilerplate on the model that is sent to all who are invited to be committers
on AOOi.  It is derived from a model document that is to be found on the Apache site:

    Hello <invitee>,

    The Apache OpenOffice Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) 
    hereby offers you committer rights to the project ... .

    Being a committer enables you to more easily make changes without 
    needing to go through the patch submission process.  This applies
    not only to the code base but other project areas, such as the
    web sites.  ...

    Being a committer does not require you to participate any more 
    than you already do.  It does tend to make one even more committed.  
    You will probably find that you spend more time here.

That same text was in the invitation that Hagar received from the PPMC on 2012-03-04.  

This is my sole contribution to this thread.  I am disappointed that Hagar left the PPMC.
 

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schaefer@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 14:42
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)

----- Original Message -----

> From: Rory O'Farrell <ofarrwrk@iol.ie>
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
> 
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT)
> Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>  If Hagar has a debilitating illness that prevents him from
>>  acquiring the requisite skills, let me apologize for asking
>>  him to try to do something a normal person on this mailing
>>  list can accomplish for themselves.
>> 
>>  That's the best you're going to get Larry.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  > From: Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas@gmail.com>
>>  > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>  > Cc: 
>>  > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:14 PM
>>  > Subject: Re: On parks, commons, and websites... and fun (or lack of)
>>  > 
>>  > 
>>  > On 2012-07-17 3:04 PM Rob Weir wrote:
>>  >>  Please, everyone.  Let's not pile on this thread with more 
> name
>>  >>  calling, etc., in the heat of the moment.
>>  >> 
>>  >>  Let's set it aside and see tomorrow if there is anything more 
> that
>>  >>  should be said.  We accomplish nothing with rapid-fire, emotional
>>  >>  responses.
>>  > 
>>  > I will quit responding when Hagar gets the apology he deserves.
>>  > 
>>  > -- 
>>  > _________________________________
>>  > 
>>  > Larry I. Gusaas
>>  > Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>>  > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
>>  > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far 
> behind 
>>  > theirs." - Edgard Varese
>>  > 
>> 
> 
> I suggest the other Mentors should _urgently review_ this thread and consider 
> what behaviour is expected from a mentor. 
> 
> It is unfair to require a volunteer to change his level of committment, or to 

Relax- nobody is *requiring* anything of anyone.  This is about expected and
model behavior.  For reasons that escape me at this point, Hagar was made a
committer on this project, and that comes with certain expectations.  Additionally
there are expectations on how *anyone* subscribed to this mailing list SHOULD apply
community documentation as it pertains to website maintenance.  That is of no surprise
to anyone either.

> suggest that he might need (I quote) "a debilitating illness that prevents 
> him from acquiring the requisite skills."  If he has not the time or the 
> inclination to extend his role, that is sufficient.  

It was, at the end of the day, a *challenge* to either accept or pass on.  Expect
there to be more of them when others approach this mailing list with bug reports
about web pages, because we want people to use the tools provided by the org to
fix those bugs themselves.  Will everyone comply?  Of course not.  This is just
the first example of that- pity it's coming from a committer.


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