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[140.122.76.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hb5sm1259584pbc.58.2012.06.06.12.12.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FCFABA9.7010406@mail.imacat.idv.tw> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:12:41 +0800 From: imacat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120506 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Apache OpenOffice Developers Subject: Re: Propose to Integrate Old OO Wiki and New AOO Wiki References: <99591569-A878-4890-BA7A-0D4F4423D91D@gmail.com> <4FCED51A.7030604@mail.imacat.idv.tw> <4FCF16A4.6000408@apache.org> <4FCF4093.5050709@t-online.de> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig2636BB4822940DAEDB04ACAA" X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn0DKGoGSv9x+GMczL8YsK/B2/h2SFdMwoEciSyyi7Eoq9KTbBYUMTotTYFEJRH8jIR7yCk --------------enig2636BB4822940DAEDB04ACAA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2012/06/06 19:56, Paulo de Souza Lima said: > 2012/6/6 Regina Henschel >=20 >> Hi all, >> >> Herbert Duerr schrieb: >> >>> On 06.06.2012 05:57, imacat wrote: >>> >>>> It's relatively easy to start a new Wiki or discard an existing one.= >>>> But to form and keep a live Wiki community is a lot harder than just= >>>> moving. >>>> >>> >>> Agreed. >>> >>> Speaking of the OOo/AOO Wiki community the Wiki has been a target of >>> attacks by Spambots or Annoybots for a long time. Please see e.g. >>> http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/w/index.php?** >>> title=3DSpecial:RecentChanges&**limit=3D500 >>> >>> which shows that most of the changelog entries are caused by these >>> Annoybots subscribing about 50 dummy users every day. >>> >>> I'm not sure if this is critical because it could blow up the service= >>> but browsing the recent changes list feels like analyzing the content= s >>> of a garbage bin instead of a "hey these are interesting updates" >>> moment. Whatever is decided to become the new Wiki I hope it is more >>> resilient against these attacks as we are a high profile target getti= ng >>> plenty of page hits on the Wiki and there are also some people that >>> really want our project to die and put some effort into it. When our >>> three Wikis get overhauled this should be a consideration. >>> >> >> Can we restrict the account creation as described in >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**Manual:Preventing_access#** >> Restrict_account_creation >> >> You need no account to read the Wiki, so its purpose giving support is= not >> restricted. >> >> Kind regards >> Regina >> >> > Hummm... That could prevent new contributors to join the project, but h= ave > no interest in joining something more, let's say, "official". For examp= le: > people who write tutorials, tips and tricks, people who make individual= > efforts locally and so on. >=20 > There are other ways to block bots and fake users. >=20 > Best regards. >=20 Thanks for reminding us the spam problem. Luckily, the spam bots seems to only register new users currently, but not destroying the content. I shall see if finer CAPTCHA can be implemented to the MediaWik= i. I do not favor closing its new account registration. If we want to keep it, we need new users to update it. Please also remember that there is no multilingual site design on the current cwiki. If we want to replace the current MediaWiki with CWiki, multilingual site design must be enabled on CWiki. --=20 Best regards, imacat ^_*' PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ --------------enig2636BB4822940DAEDB04ACAA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/Pq6kACgkQi9gubzC5S1w7EwCeIhOUztwIs1Xgq9evUnSgFEXY ehUAnixvUkiAHqXWs/etAxugQdiQX/bn =02Ap -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig2636BB4822940DAEDB04ACAA--