Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C679CD54 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 37274 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jun 2012 22:34:18 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37126 invoked by uid 500); 19 Jun 2012 22:34:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 37116 invoked by uid 99); 19 Jun 2012 22:34:18 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:34:18 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [205.178.146.57] (HELO omr7.networksolutionsemail.com) (205.178.146.57) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:34:08 +0000 Received: from cm-omr11 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5JMXlBA016144 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:33:47 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr11 smtp.user=drew@baseanswers.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: drew@baseanswers.com Received: from [207.255.220.76] ([207.255.220.76:56367] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by cm-omr11 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 64/14-14647-B4EF0EF4; Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:33:47 -0400 Subject: Re: [Proposal] Guidelines for list conduct policy From: drew To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: References: <4FE0EFE3.6040708@btconnect.com> <1340143349.14207.5.camel@sybil-gnome> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:33:48 -0400 Message-ID: <1340145228.14914.6.camel@sybil-gnome> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, 2012-06-20 at 00:14 +0200, RGB ES wrote: > 2012/6/20 drew jensen : > >> > >> List Conduct Policy > >> > >> 1. > >> What Happens on the list, stays on the list: > >> Anything you read in the private list is by default a private PPMC > >> affair and not to be spoken of, or copied to, other people who are not in > >> the PPMC. If you think about it, most topic threads probably should > >> be in > >> the public lists, except choosing committers and PPMC members, and a very > >> few other topics. > >> In fact, all email lists or email conversations have this aspect of > >> privacy. Even if there are 23000 subscribers on the list, it is assumed > >> that privacy will be maintained and a list member's name and location > >> will > >> not be disclosed in some public venue where personal privacy is not > >> expected, > >> such as published in a newspaper or some other. > > > > hi, > > > > I would disagree with that last statement completely - a public list is > > just that, public, and there should be absolutely no expectation of > > privacy whatsoever. To pretend otherwise is simply to lie to those who > > would use the list. > > > > //drew > > Point one refers to the private lists, I think. > > Maybe add a "point zero" with an introduction to the mailing lists, as > Ross asked? Not a detailed introduction, just to say most lists are > public but one is private. Then the "code of conduct" can be separated > on a "general part" that apply to all lists and a second part with > additional rules (for instance, the privacy one) for the private list. > > Ricardo > OK if that is really just about private lists, but the last sentence read to me as if it was broader. Anyway - to be honest I find the whole subject rather silly. Does anyone really need to be told that what happens on a private list is by definition to be held in confidence? //drew