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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Participate in another GSoC like programme
Date Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:24:33 GMT
My apologies, I sent this to the wrong list (damned autocomplete)
please ignore (or pick it up on if you are

On 25 June 2012 13:15, Ross Gardler <> wrote:
> Some may recall that I kept promising the arrival of students from an
> EU Commission project on a GSoC style pilot in formal education. This
> was a very long way from successful but there was zero impact on our
> projects since we asked PMCs to mark GSoC level projects as "mentor".
> This enabled us to provide a list of suitable projects for the
> students without PMCs needing to do additional work.
> I've now been approached by another EU Commission project proposal
> team that wants to do something similar, but this time with students
> doing the work as part of their assessed coursework (i.e. they have a
> strong motivation for doing the work). Another, big difference this
> time is that one of the partner organisations has ASF committers (2
> of) and there are three open source savvy commercial organisations on
> the bid (DISCLOSURE: one of them is my little consultancy company).
> Given the way these proposals get written, there is a very tight
> deadline on this (2 days). I got a first draft of the proposal this
> weekend and I am now satisfied that what is being asked of associate
> partners is acceptable (i.e we won't be responsible for students
> education). However, there isn't enough time for a proper discuss then
> vote process. I'm therefore running these in parallel.
> If anyone has *any* serious concerns about rushing like this please
> vote -1 and I'll go back to plan B which is simply to highlight my
> engagement with the ASF as an individual. Note that I will not be
> voting given the obvious conflict of interest. However, if the funding
> is approved I will be taking full responsibility for all aspects of
> administration within the ASF (and other associate partners). Note I
> have also notified board@ and will cancel the vote if the board raises
> a concern.
> In terms of deliverables from the project think of GSoC where the
> students get credits towards their degree rather than cash (Semester
> of Code rather than Summer of Code). If successful the project will
> provide a "manual" for other universities wishing to offer such real
> world experience to their students.
> Our PMCs will choose to offer mentors based on the quality of student
> applications - if there are no students that look interesting we have
> no further commitments.
> Here is the text of the letter of intent I propose to sign if the
> ComDev PMC approves:
> ---- start copied text ---
> The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) provides support for the Apache
> community of open-source software projects. That community provide
> software products for the public good. The ASF is made up of over 100
> top level projects that cover a wide range of technologies. Chances
> are that if anyone is looking for a rewarding experience in Open
> Source, you are going to find it here.
> The Apache projects are defined by collaborative consensus based
> processes, an open, pragmatic software license and a desire to create
> high quality software that leads the way in its field. We are
> recognized as one of the most influential software organisations of
> our time and are often seen as the "gold standard" of open source
> software development.
> We have participated in the Google Summer of Code programme since its
> inception and continue to mentor around 40 students per year. We have
> had great success with this programme with some of our earliest
> students still working with us.
> The OSKA project has the potential to extend the benefits of the
> Google Summer of Code programme into formal education whilst still
> allowing our communities to work alongside students in real world open
> source projects. As a voluntary organisation we cannot guarantee that
> students will succeed, but we can provide an environment in which  any
> sufficiently able
> student will find our projects supportive and educational. We look
> forward to extending our Google Summer of Code efforts to support the
> OSKA trial.
> --
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective

Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)

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