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From zhangjf <zhan...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [IMPORTANT][Call for UX review] [Windows 8 certification]Test for "Section 11 Apps must support multi-user sessions" is not tested by Windows App Certification Kit
Date Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:26:11 GMT
I am reviewing yuanlin's updated patch for the new dialog message
only, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=78521&action=diff.
 And I suppose it will remove "- Fatal Error" from the error dialog
title string late, so this will not introduce more strings for
translation.

If there is no more concerns in 4 hours from now, I will commit this
string patch to 3.4.1 at first.

thanks,
zhangjf

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, zhangjf <zhangjf@apache.org> wrote:
> How about just simply remove "- Fatal Error" from the dialog title
> string? it won't add one more string for translation.
>
> zhangjf
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Jürgen Schmidt
> <jogischmidt@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/28/12 6:23 PM, zhangjf wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>> <jogischmidt@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/12 6:12 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>> On 6/28/12 5:33 PM, zhangjf wrote:
>>>>>> If it still needs more time for discussion,  I think it is also
one
>>>>>> option to only commit the new string change at first to catch up
>>>>>> translation.  It should have no impacts on function without committing
>>>>>> the code. In this way, please review the new dialog and string first.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it acceptable?
>>>>>
>>>>> sure, the way how it works is to check in the src file running localize
>>>>> to create a new sdf, convert it, update pootle, doing the translation
on
>>>>> Pootle (to speed up and simplify the process) and finally merge it back
>>>>> in svn.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thunk the proposed solution is good and fulfill the requirements. Can
>>>> we make a screenshot with the warning box and the English strings for
>>>> review?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yuanlin's original first post in this mail thread contains the dialog
>>> snapshot url at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=78482.
>>
>> ok thanks, I have overseen this. I have 2 questions:
>>
>> 1. dialog title shows "Fatal Error", is it really a Fatal Error? I don't
>> think so, we detect a running instance and close the application or
>> better don't continue to start. I think it's more a warning, isn't it?
>>
>> 2. in case of error I think we have a better error icon, in case of a
>> warning the used icon is ok from my pov.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> In general I would support the proposed solution with a clear +1 to move
>>>> forward immediately.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> zhangjf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>>> <jogischmidt@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sorry for my top posting but I think this is very urgent and
important.
>>>>>>> When we want to integrate this in 3.4.1 we have to do it immediately,
>>>>>>> means by the end of this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The warning messages have to translated!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any opinions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/27/12 11:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 6/27/12 3:23 AM, Lin Yuan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Currently in AOO, only part of the data in user profile
is locked and can
>>>>>>>>> not access by mutiple instances. So as tested on Windows
Server 2008, AOO
>>>>>>>>> will crash in such situation. The patch is not to really
support one user
>>>>>>>>> to launch multiple instances on mutiple sessions case.
According to the
>>>>>>>>> suggestion in Windows 8 Certification below:
>>>>>>>>> *Note*: If an app does not support multiple user sessions
or remote access,
>>>>>>>>> it must clearly state this when launched from this kind
of session.
>>>>>>>>> With the patch, AOO will popup a warning dialog and exit
in this case. So
>>>>>>>>> it will still not support mutiple user sessions for one
user but the UX is
>>>>>>>>> more frendly than the current crash issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we have to define fast if we want include it for 3.4.1 or
not. It will
>>>>>>>> require some translation effort that we have to organize
in time (e.g.
>>>>>>>> updating Pootle etc.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Lin Yuan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2012/6/27 Joost Andrae <Joost.Andrae@gmx.de>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but in a Windows Terminal Server session
you have user profiles for each
>>>>>>>>>>>> user.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This patch is for if you connect with Terminal
Services twice using
>>>>>>>>>>> the same user account.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just wanted to make sure that there is no real
problem to get OpenOffice
>>>>>>>>>> configured so it can be used within a multi user
environment (MS TS,
>>>>>>>>>> Citrix, Sun SGD, or UNIX profiles). If the same user
connects a second time
>>>>>>>>>> then there might be a locking problem with his profile
data. If you want to
>>>>>>>>>> fix this then it's OK but in my opinion it's not
really needed because
>>>>>>>>>> usually it should be prevented that one user accesses
the same user profile
>>>>>>>>>> from another terminal (RDP, X11) session.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just my two € Cents, Joost
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>

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