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From Stuart Swales <stuart.swales.croftnu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: Include only one en-US dictionary extension
Date Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:08:06 GMT
On 20/06/2012 16:57, Andre Fischer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 20.06.2012 17:39, Stuart Swales wrote:
>> On 20/06/2012 10:28, Andre Fischer wrote:
>>> On 19.06.2012 18:37, Stuart Swales wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> Please don't merrily discard the English language variant
>>>> dictionaries -
>>>> they are really really important.
>>>
>>> The reason for wanting to drop some of the english extensions is not a
>>> disregard for (of?) the english language and its variants.  In older
>>> versions of OpenOffice only the dict-en extension was included.  It is
>>> probably my fault that there are now five dictionary extensions.
>>>
>>> I added the functionality for downloading and integrating the extensions
>>> into the installation sets and used the information on [1] to setup the
>>> initial list of extensions to bundle.  Maybe the time has come to reduce
>>> that list to what is really needed.
>>>
>>> dict-en seems to support the variants (AU,CA,GB,US,ZA).  I say "seems"
>>> because I am neither a linguist nor do I have information beyond what
>>> the pages in the extension repository provide (see links to english
>>> dictionaries on [1]).  I don't know if the separate dictionaries for
>>> AU,NZ,CA, and US contain anything that is not already included in
>>> dict-en.
>>>
>>> If you or anybody else have/has more information then please share that
>>> with the rest of us so that we can make a decision based on facts
>>> whether to keep or to drop the extensions.
>>>
>>> -Andre
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
>>>
>>
>> I can only really speak for en_GB here - David Bartlett put in a lot of
>> work to get a usable British English dictionary going in the early days
>> of OpenOffice.org and life was made much easier once that was
>> incorporated into the main build.  Obviously 95% or so of the word list
>> will be common across the English language variants but the 5% or so
>> that does differ matters greatly to 'natives'.  British English spelling
>> does vary trivially but significantly from US English spelling.  We have
>> important users over here including universities, a national newspaper,
>> city councils...
>>
>> If we were to kick out all non-en_US variants from the core build
> 
> Please read what I wrote above.  It is the dict-en.oxt dictionary that I
> would like to keep, not en_US.oxt.  dict-en.oxt is, as far as I know the
> only one that HAS support for GB.

Thanks Andre, its clearer still when I re-read the BugZilla issues.

> By the way, the upcoming 3.4.1 release will have a separate GB version.
>  This will have British English strings not only in the dictionary but
> also in the UI.
> 

And in the help too!

> Also by the way, we have yet to decide on the set of extensions
> (dictionaries and others) included in the GB version of AOO.  Now would
> be the right time to make a wish.  I nobody speaks up, it will be
> shipped without any dictionaries.
> 
> -Andre

Please do ship this with dict-en.oxt

- Stuart

> 
>> then I
>> guess users here would be surprised at the regression.  They would have
>> to figure out how to find and download the appropriate extension, which
>> I think could be beyond a fair proportion of them, leading to gripes
>> about Apache OpenOffice 'not being as good as the old one'.
>>
>> My 2p.
>>
>> - Stuart Swales
>>
>>
> 



-- 
Stuart Swales



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