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From Peter Brawley <peter.braw...@earthlink.net>
Subject Re: Installation Experience and Feedback
Date Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:36:02 GMT
On 2012-06-11 10:17 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
>
>
> On 11.06.2012 16:51, O.Felka wrote:
>> Am 11.06.2012 16:37, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>> On 11.06.2012 15:53, O.Felka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AFAICT, the unpacked files are only needed for installation,
and 
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> still has the initial download, so why clutter up the disk?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this is not true. The unpacked files are needed for the so called
>>>>>> 'maintenance mode': Starting the setup from the control panel offers
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> a repair and a modify mode. That's what the unpacked files are 
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> for.
>>>>>> What we might delete is the packed file.
>>>>>
>>>>> But do we really need the maintenance mode?  There are not that many
>>>>> applications on my system that offer one.  We are talking about 
>>>>> 130 MB
>>>>> of additional disk space.
>>>>
>>>> As long as we don't install the complete office we need the 
>>>> maintenance
>>>> mode.
>>>> Applications that don't offer several modules as AOO does don't need a
>>>> 'Modify' mode.
>>>> If we want to offer to install e.g. only the Calc application we need
>>>> the maintenance mode for these users that wants to use the Writer to a
>>>> later time also.
>>>> The 'Repair' option is also a part of the maintenance mode.
>>>
>>> The question is whether there are more people annoyed by a folder on
>>> their desktop that contains files that hardly ever used or users that
>>> install only a part of the application then change their mind later.
>>
>> As we don't have any information it would end up in wild guessing.
>> comparing these two user groups is meaningless at this point.
>
> No not meaningless, just not easily possible.
>
>> As we started with the self extracting installer we've had to decide
>> where to place the unpacked files. The desktop is the place where you
>> can't oversee them.
>
> That is one thing I still don't understand.  Why is it important that 
> the user has to find these files.  The installation starts 
> automatically after the downloaded archive has been extracted.

It should do, but with Win 7 Pro & Chrome, it did not.

PB

-----

> A repair or change is triggered via a system dialog.  What is the use 
> case in which the user has to click on any of the downloaded files 
> directly?
>
>> Every user has option to unpack these file at a different location.
>
> We still need a better default.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> As have written before, it's an option to delete the unpacked file to
>>>> save disk space. The unpacked files can be used easier to 
>>>> distribute the
>>>> AOO without downloading.
>>>> In times of hard disks with TB size saving 130 MB is not so important
>>>> for me.
>>>
>>> Maybe not for you.
>>>
>>
>> As I have written.
>>
>
> In another issue regarding extensions installed in the user directory 
> you where not so forgiving about disk space.
>
> -Andre
>
>

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