Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1562FCEBB for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 21:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 62788 invoked by uid 500); 4 May 2012 21:34:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 62710 invoked by uid 500); 4 May 2012 21:34:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 62701 invoked by uid 99); 4 May 2012 21:34:22 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 May 2012 21:34:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of kay.schenk@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.217.175] (HELO mail-lb0-f175.google.com) (209.85.217.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 May 2012 21:34:17 +0000 Received: by lbol5 with SMTP id l5so2215860lbo.6 for ; Fri, 04 May 2012 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fK6HXXTBf6apq0pe/QRTx/G3/zZox9JH/KcCfHn+Aoc=; b=0hnlG8vlkE/5F6KNYCPIg4SNx6izQg/z6tq1ndrbT2lWozNy/+41U8VmtD1twn7Dh2 NIhgPct5MK0Dkgd493CPylYirE2bpwfzwenA8qLjtKpLCClHQStz90L5DD3VR1WCwDCD k0BBkvt3ojR1s4+zKRNzRCzByfwW2bVHTpsNf7dP3lFaua/jlKNF+XzLJVmOzAjF7OxJ /6Krr66f7FtyMl7XNhTPJezKr29UsmCQJtMD1kAW6OtrXdggx6Vdt+yAeep0GReq/PsR NAhYI/QrPIoTMQ6LT76iU2RgCI9lYu+yzKaKVaQQ2WrnXMP5lH2wMmMi+T5yO6zMEkhc M/Ig== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.128.137 with SMTP id no9mr7248494lab.2.1336167235763; Fri, 04 May 2012 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.113.67 with HTTP; Fri, 4 May 2012 14:33:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <800015FF-F091-472C-AF6E-56D6FAEEE7B4@comcast.net> References: <4FA37BAA.7050501@juergen-lange.de> <800015FF-F091-472C-AF6E-56D6FAEEE7B4@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:33:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DL] question concerning NL downloads...or not From: Kay Schenk To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042d038c72bca504bf3cad01 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --f46d042d038c72bca504bf3cad01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On May 4, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:48 PM, J=FCrgen Lange > wrote: > > > >> Hello Kay, > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> This is a good idea. > >> > >> J=FCrgen > >> > >> Am 04.05.2012 00:59, schrieb Kay Schenk: > >> > >> Just a quick philosophical questions for the upcoming 3.4 download. > >>> > >>> Right now, as I relayed in a previous message, I commented out ALL th= e > >>> language entries for which we have do not have packs available on our > >>> Apache mirror setup. What this means is that folks with a language > string > >>> identifier which we are no longer supporting will probably end up on > the > >>> "other.html" page, which is in English. > >>> > >>> Another option would be to setup the language array by placing them > back > >>> in > >>> the process, and, instead of commenting them out, indicate through > one of > >>> the flags already available that the release for the language is NOT > >>> available on the mirror system, as many of them were already. Folks > will > >>> then be sent back to their current native language site. There, of > course, > >>> they will not find an update, but they won't be any worse off than th= ey > >>> are > >>> now in some respects. > >>> > >>> Any thoughts on this? Is the latter alternative more desirable -- or > not. > > Some NL sites have DLs, but most do not. Rob has listed the few that do > many of which do have AOO versions. > My goal at this point, given everyone's time considerations, is to have things working as closely as they were to the former DL scenario. In the past NL sites could choose where DLs for their language would be located -- on the mirror site or some alternate location. I think ALL the languages in the languages.js list have something in the way of a DL but really some may be quite old -- maybe even older than 3.0. Reactivating ALL the languages that existed before for this DL, and letting users go to that site, is no more harmful than what's been done in the past. I agree it is NOT optimal...but, given the timeframe we're operating in right now, I don't think adding something else to deal with them is optimal. > > If none of the user's langs are available then there are several choices. > > (1) other.html. Their version isn't there. If they want AOO 3.4 in anothe= r > language fine. Is that the first choice? > Ok, Marcus has coded this up...you can see it at: http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html So, for languages for which we have NO 3.4.0, the links go to valid distros for 3.3.0. However, there is no indication, generally or specifically that a language will not get 3.4.0. This could pretty easily be added generally at the top of the page, but specifically., by some means, doubtful at this time. > > (2) legacy/index.html. WIll this work if the most recent legacy is what > they are looking for? > I think we're good with the "new" other.html > > If the language is missing from 3.4, I think it makes sense to write a > special non-button text warning above that offers the legacy. > > "We are sorry but your language, XXXX, is not yet available in the curren= t > version. Click the to locate a version of OpenOffice.org > 3.3 or earlier in your language." > > Regards, > Dave > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Yes, and as Marcus just left ALL the languages in the new "other" page= , > > this would more or less make things consistent. OK, will do. > > > > > > -- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------------- > > MzK > > > > "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you > > And life has a funny way of helping you out > > Helping you out." > > -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette > > --=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- MzK "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out." -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette --f46d042d038c72bca504bf3cad01--