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Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 19:02:04 +0200
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On 26/mag/2012, at 18:19, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 05/24/2012 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just checking the numbers:  we appear to be at 1.8 million for AOO
>>> 3.4
>>>>>>> install downloads.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It might make sense to put out another story when we hit 2 million.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> why not! :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK. I'll work with Don on this.    But after this I suggest we only
>>>>> note the downloads at 5 million intervals.  Otherwise we will spend
>>>>> too much time writing news articles and too little time improving
>>>>> OpenOffice.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> this definitely makes sense...
>>>> 
>>>> We might note that June 1 is the first anniversary OpenOffice with
>>> Apache.
>>>> Maybe the new DL stats announcement, if the timeline is right, might make
>>>> note of this and include a mention of how successful this new
>>>> environment/arrangement has been for OpenOffice. Just a thought.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It looks like we'll hit 2 million sometime tomorrow (Saturday).   If
>>> we wait until June 1st (Friday) we'll be around 2.5.  But announcing
>>> on Friday is not good for getting press attention.  And if we wait
>>> until the next week, June 4th, then we'll almost be at 3 million.
>>> 
>>> So....  maybe we just make a smaller announcement, via
>>> ooo-dev/ooo-users and social media for the 2 million mark, when we
>>> actually hit it.  Then for the larger Symphony announcement we also
>>> note the 1 year achievement as well as give an updated download count,
>>> 2.5 or 3.0 million, depending on when that is ready for release.
>>> 
>> 
>> +1 on this.
>> 
>> I think this approach would certainly steer us in the "future development"
>> direction and a bit away from tooting our own horn. Not that I think the
>> latter is a bad thing, but, it would be better to prevent the "flash in the
>> pan" business mentioned by Louis.
>> 
>> As for the new climbing numbers -- well maybe some folks have been reading
>> reviews and wondering what AOO is all about. I wouldn't be surprised if
>> some of the latest downloads were from "new" customers.
>> 
> 
> I see it like this:  Analysts like Gartner were forecasting 2012 new
> PC sales of around 400 million units.  Let's say 1/2 of them need some
> sort of office-suite on them.  And suppose we have a market share of
> 10%, which is what optimistically OOo was at its peak.   So even if
> everyone in the world who wanted OpenOffice already had OpenOffice, we
> would expect 20 million downloads/year just from the new PC sales.
> 
> But to get 20 million in a year would only generate around 55K
> downloads/day.   We're getting twice that.   So that suggests we're
> still getting strong downloads from upgrades on existing OOo
> installations as well as new installs on existing PCs.
> 
> It would be good if we can find a way to distinguish those two
> scenarios when we enable the OOo 3.3 upgrades.  For example, a URL
> parameter, even if we don't use it in processing, to indicate that the
> user came to download.html via an upgrade, e.g.:
> http://download.openoffice.org?upgrade=3.3.0

Yea, it makes sense a lot of sense to me.

Roberto


> 
> 
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A good problem to have ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe this can be combined with the piece on Symphony that Don was
>>>>>>> working on?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> yes...good idea!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
>>>>>>                              -- Mark Twain
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> MzK
>>>> 
>>>> "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
>>>>                                 -- Mark Twain
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
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>> MzK
>> 
>> "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
>>                                 -- Mark Twain

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