Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CF05C489 for ; Tue, 22 May 2012 10:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46922 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2012 10:49:42 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46871 invoked by uid 500); 22 May 2012 10:49:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46858 invoked by uid 99); 22 May 2012 10:49:41 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2012 10:49:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [74.208.4.194] (HELO mout.perfora.net) (74.208.4.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 May 2012 10:49:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (pool-108-7-223-175.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [108.7.223.175]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MCL9t-1SNfpZ3WFN-009K98; Tue, 22 May 2012 06:49:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4FBB6F27.9090709@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 06:49:11 -0400 From: Shane Curcuru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Comment] Apache software is always free References: <4FBAEDF2.9030601@shanecurcuru.org> <20120522064142.6d9f067f46823d9fbad8884f@iol.ie> In-Reply-To: <20120522064142.6d9f067f46823d9fbad8884f@iol.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:xWX0HXTT3SvdSRuACvCa8X2PPKXtIK72jhQufDSFRed N/M0agzr0IsxixXACpXvjTav91P6wxa8ccqNlC7Okri3sSTt+V YKaHRPR6TlmA2rwjzH40tq1FhhG0vZnX37DkCM+wGxeUCkP9Yf Ai/2Ck3oQCdThQIZ1ZIfzEhFJnG4fEV+XqZA4lh0fmCd/rk6cZ jPbHXT7ZNEMA3jgcO7FWpmIGfgdNjMhgkH24abkwiPnrhR/doJ mdDBj5tOq5ReTs4/lYhTS0z6n1yN8NpYxI3NrmtmO8/9Bxu15j Cq1p57rfJg0jwzBap//w14tB321EIjjRyxeNeEPSmzFW6ozkBM G6p0NKM2kkfbVfHdTf9aKS35uP74A6rIKXFPEwnPd X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 2012-05-22 1:41 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Mon, 21 May 2012 21:37:54 -0400 Shane > Curcuru wrote: > >> Since this question is coming up much much more now that we have >> AOO, I figured we need an official URL and resource to point to >> when people ask. >> >> http://www.apache.org/free >> >> Any glaring errors? Anything I should add, or express more >> clearly? >> >> The immediate driver for this as a memorable URL is the AOO >> podling, since you clearly have the greatest need (with the huge >> non-technical user base). Is there anything in particular we >> should consider adding to address AOO or OOo users specifically? >> >> - Shane >> > > The Project list might benefit from a few explanatory words attached > to each Project name, as these names can be rather esoteric; remember > we are not preaching to the converted who know Apache software is > free, but to a puzzled stranger.out t True, but the purpose of this page is singular: answer the question about "do I have to pay for Apache software". So I'm trying to keep it as short and sweet - yet still explain the concepts - as possible. > > As this request for review is posted on an OpenOffice list, I remark > that the presence of OpenOffice is not readily apparent. I have not > statistics before me of uptake of all Apache projects, but I would > expect that OpenOffice (although Incubating) is or shortly will be > among the front runners and deserves a presence. > Apache OpenOffice is listed alongside the webserver (first/most widely used ASF project), and Hadoop and Lucene (both very visible in the developer space these days). Note that if AOO wants to create your own version of this page that specifically addresses these points for AOO, please feel free. You could then link to the /free page as reference, but explain the OOo-specific issues in detail. - Shane