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Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 22:36:24 +0200
From: Juergen Schmidt <jogischmidt@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: [WWW] Common layout and content for NL sites (was: Some
 issues translating download/index.html)
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On Thursday, 10. May 2012 at 22:17, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi J=C3=BCrgen, Dave, *
> =20
> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 09:56:25PM +0200, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 9. May 2012 at 19:40, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > > =20
> > > Hi there,
> > > =20
> > > We know AOO website is not set up to be (easily=3F) localized, but =
we've
> > > been doing our best with the guys on the Spanish mailing list to up=
date
> > > the Spanish NL site, mainly translating /adapting the main English =
site.
> > > =20
> > > I've been trying to translate the download page, you can find it at=

> > > http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/es/descargar/index.html
> > > So far I see two (main) issues:
> > > =20
> > > * I had to make a copy of exceptions.css to adapt the cachedimages/=
*.png
> > > URLs
> > > =20
> > > * we want the look & feel and the system detection, but not the
> > > language detection: the user is on the Spanish site, the download m=
ust
> > > be a Spanish package. I hacked this by adding a variable that is se=
t
> > > on the localized index.html via setLanguage(=22es=22); then this va=
riable
> > > is used instead of navigator.language. I guess that instead of this=
,
> > > the script code could detect if it is invoked from /download/index.=
html
> > > or /=24LANG/xxx/=5B.../=5Dindex..html
> > > Is this solvable=3F Anyone with a better idea=3F
> > > The page looks like:
> > > http://people.apache.org/=7Earielch/images/www-es-descargar.png
> > > with this patch applied::
> > > http://people.apache.org/=7Earielch/patches/localize-download-index=
-html.patch
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > In a perfect situation, the site should be localizable with PO file=
s,
> > > and no need to hack stuff... but we are far from this situation.
> > > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > but it is worth to think in this direction and focus future work to t=
his as well. =20
> > I like this and will support all efforts going in this direction.
> > =20
> =20
> =20
> It has been discussed on the list several times before the idea of
> having a common set of pages in all NL sites, but the discussion didn't=

> have a conclusion. Now that AOO 3.4 is out, one can browse the NL sites=
,
> and in several cases you get the feeling that you are in an abandoned
> place; this will give our users a very bad idea of what's happening at
> AOO.
> =20
> Just some examples:
> =20
> * http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/de/index.html last Neuigkeit:
> 26.01.2011 OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 wurde ver=C3=B6ffentlicht
> =20
> * if you look for mailing lists on the =46rench site, you end up in
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/fr/contact-forums.html
> =20
> * on the main site, there is some rather old content that now is
> outdated and/or looks ugly in the new site layout
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/product/index.html the screen shot
> is from an older version
> =20
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/why/index.html looks rather ugly;
> IIRC on the old site this page was displayed on a separated window,
> now it looks rather unprofessional
> =20
> These examples show that there is a lot to update on the main site *and=
*
> the NL sites; instead of multiplying the efforts, we should think of
> a set-up where the web designers only have to design one site,
> translators localize the site and volunteers update other localizable
> content like screenshots.
> =20
> =46ollowing the main site, I'd think of a common set of pages containin=
g
> the basic information that should be provided to our users (folder name=
s
> could be localizable, see the directory structure in
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/es/ )=

> =20
> =20
> /=24LANG/index.html =20
> div actionstatements - the actions list
> div news - some news
> =20
> /=24LANG/product/ - describing AOO applications
> =20
> /=24LANG/why/ - what is AOO and why should you use it
> =20
> /=24LANG/social/ - Social Networks
> =20
> /=24LANG/support/ - Mailing lists, forum, documentation
> =20
> /=24LANG/download/ - Downloads, Checksums
> =20
> /=24LANG/participate/ - How to participate in AOO
> =20
> /=24LANG/extensions/ - Extensions and templates information
> =20
> /=24LANG/news/ - News, Announcements, Releases Notes
> =20
> =20

+1 for this proposal and thanks for picking this up...

Juergen =20
> =20
> =20
> Regards
> -- =20
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
> =20
> =20


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