Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D07EC31E for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 02:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82237 invoked by uid 500); 25 May 2012 02:40:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 82002 invoked by uid 500); 25 May 2012 02:40:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81980 invoked by uid 99); 25 May 2012 02:40:51 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 25 May 2012 02:40:51 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.47] (HELO mail-pz0-f47.google.com) (209.85.210.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 25 May 2012 02:40:43 +0000 Received: by dalh21 with SMTP id h21so642285dal.6 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 19:40:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=ZO2DBLofuAzFssnV5Kanvmgv/X/0jAxpbm2CpmUdYAY=; b=m+OUY9aQnLZJ6OKNOPRgYNcA12njNb0PTHRHZI0GlmqpcXrum0+0UzAltH9LHchg72 0D4cpU67JrQX8kilA+1RZCeOC08rPf2PEmB+Cq2v1WzYVFreQI0jJnPqmDN3PDZDBbu2 EHOrU0d48jTc4BG6aSLC7uUY5xPbIxcYhHbO3zvpZS7+ZP9uAmb2rdXFgBwYzcvtAO3d wcRSlR3OYnwKSCx31YA6WYhSd70fD7hytvrpFkdMZSgRnZIAxwHX6Prtu80mWfiS/UbV jk1lkP9+yWldwC73RiIP/crJLH5GT81fHG3+0cA+IO9fC2P3/gMMj8qACG5EajcAyI0G JO1w== Received: by 10.68.241.161 with SMTP id wj1mr27316989pbc.112.1337913622474; Thu, 24 May 2012 19:40:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.32.203.92] ([112.64.189.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qx8sm6328405pbc.28.2012.05.24.19.40.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 May 2012 19:40:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <4FBCFEC3.1020204@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <21AFB0D2-6FD7-463F-9F83-E537861B4A66@gmail.com> Cc: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B176) From: Kevin Grignon Subject: Re: [UX] Questions for users Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:36:20 +0800 To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" On May 25, 2012, at 2:42 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Kevin Grignon > wrote: >> Hey All, >>=20 >> Great thread, many great research questions in here. >>=20 >> Overall, we are moving in the right direction. We need to understand who >> uses AOO, and what they use it for. What works, what doesn't . Context of= >> use, when and where is also important. >>=20 >=20 > I bet almost all of our users (> 95%) are using OpenOffice as a > Microsoft Office substitute. So their expectations and tasks are > highly influenced by the feature set and UI of Microsoft Office. But > not necessarily the latest version of MS Office. There is a lag. So > Office 2003 might be more influential in expectations than the > "ribbon" UI of Office 2007 and later. But this will shift over time. >=20 > There have been various attempts to re-imagine the basic editors, some > more successful than others. Lotus tried with its Improv application > to take the spreadsheet to the next level. Some users got it, but > the network effect of 1-2-3 (and later Excel) compatibility was too > great. This is a huge effect in this market. The value of user > training in the predominate editors as well the benefits of > interoperability with other editors that have a very similar feature > set -- these factors conspire to keep us in a narrow orbit around a > conventional view of personal productivity apps. >=20 > That said, it is possible to be bold and strike gold. Prezi and their > unique view of a presentation is one example: http://prezi.com/. In > such cases the new feature set might be intrinsically so valuable to > the user that it more than compensates for the learning curve and > lower interop with other editors. They re-base their expectations on > the new thing, and that defines the new normal. >=20 > So that is something we'll need to figure out: What relative > attention should we give to: >=20 > 1) improving the conventional set of features we already have in AOO? >=20 > 2) Adding new features to achieve greater parity with MS Office? >=20 > 3) Being bold and adding new features that don't exist anywhere else? >=20 > If you survey users, I bet you won't get many requests for #3. And if > you queried users the day before the electronic spreadsheet was > invented no user would have asked for one either. >=20 > -Rob >=20 KG02 says: Rob, thanks for sharing you thoughts. Some good historical considerations he= re.=20 Agreed, we need to understand our users stated and unstated needs. Herein li= es the opportunity for design leadership. Any research should seek to balanc= e exploitation (incremental enhancements) and exploration (break through inn= ovation).=20 Let's get started.=20 Kevin >> Let's move the conversation to the UX wiki, and capture some our research= >> question candidates. >>=20 >> Also, let's look at previous research efforts to help us quickly build a >> strong survey. Sun, Oracle, IBM and the OO community have performed user >> research in the past. Let's leverage this content, where possible. >>=20 >> In addition to a capturing a series of research questions, let's capture >> our thoughts in the UX wiki on our research strategy. Beyond email list a= nd >> forums, we may want to consider how we might use social media channels to= >> drive traffic to the user research questions. >>=20 >> Finally, let's think about how we take the output of the research data an= d >> turn the data into UX work products that will help drive informed design >> and development decisions. Harvesting data to create user roles and usage= >> scenarios would be a logical start. >>=20 >> I volunteer to create some UX wiki pages to help capture this content. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Kevin >>=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Kay Schenk wrote= : >>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On 05/20/2012 11:54 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: >>>=20 >>>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto >>>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Hi. >>>>>=20 >>>>> 2012/5/20 Paulo de Souza Lima >>>>>=20 >>>>> I think you mean "How old are you?" =3D) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Sorry, thanks. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Maybe we could contribute to improve those questions. My 2 cents: >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Are you using it at your work (ask where does he/she work) or at home= , >>>>>> or >>>>>> both? >>>>>> Do you think you have enough support? Where do you use to get support= ? >>>>>> (manuals, friends, forum, mailing lists, etc) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Good! >>>>>=20 >>>>> Open to suggestions. :-) >>>>>=20 >>>>> Albino >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>> Where will these questions be asked? During the download process? Durin= g >>>> the registration process? A poll on the web site? >>>>=20 >>>> -Wolf >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I'll throw my .02 in here. >>>=20 >>> Assuming we could get them to "register" somehow and supply an e-mail >>> address, would it be an idea to send them an e-mail like a month later a= nd >>> get feedback *after* they've used the product for a bit? >>>=20 >>> No ideas about questions except for the general items like performance >>> issues, etc. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> PS Website polls 1 to 2 question open-ended questions (questions withou= t a >>>> set choice of answers) have been known to produce very useful data-sets= >>>> among users of public library services, and I would suggest that model a= s >>>> an interesting way to find out our own blind spots, regarding usage >>>> trends. >>>> Closed-end questions such as "do you like seagulls" can only get 3 >>>> responses, "yes," "no" and "no response at all." >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>> -- >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ------------ >>> MzK >>>=20 >>> "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated." >>> -- Mark Twain >>>=20