Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A99539F7D for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 02:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 50256 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2012 02:22:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50201 invoked by uid 500); 30 May 2012 02:22:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 50193 invoked by uid 99); 30 May 2012 02:22:25 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 02:22:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [98.139.91.76] (HELO nm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (98.139.91.76) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Wed, 30 May 2012 02:22:15 +0000 Received: from [72.30.22.79] by nm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2012 02:21:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.44] by tm13.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2012 02:21:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 May 2012 02:21:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 439902.7725.bm@omp1044.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60933 invoked by uid 60001); 30 May 2012 02:21:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1338344515; bh=sGavhqbM10ZBHzzT4XwnUXsJ2lARcD72eDQbegiDwAU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-RocketYMMF:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=szyHnU2xQ0LKD9xFuhzKccwDY9gSts/1ozHni7rTNGhXnbvJ3lDeRFsrm8t9tHUc2+nG9UtAQB/Hn9WkbUVbe7CnpnSO8q0xqaM8BR28X/hi4dFW9ttpb0C7kf13vAvTttgdy5Zstn8cd6sPo1CzHtYGR5ivEUAsXLQthcNgJSg= X-YMail-OSG: FFAewCoVM1luA2tXDDKHmJyOSqEGmoM51uHqtoYFqIPTDlf hh1JXXKhfhVSHB_sS5d6DyRCXahTmVxoh3.lqx.B9LjeyT5v8SP_xhw1plh8 SwuFPmtkz6HgJ5NcdT5jV2luMwKRIfAFqpegUg5thYqsu9KmGtgNsDJpEe5o D3gcrPMgaTYiUMernINf7Qn7tIqHyEoiNjp2fDus9OCm_DOZ7iHZKQkjAbDW TvvzKC.l3YdujCQx1xDmgzOBzhuph12nqZOeu0FQKL18g.DdGxeuYnOIgEPt A68C7xb04U6F.s7HPD09MQeRpUgmKksl0UK.ZpUNU3wEzOmw0Hn2UdzYYGI8 PNEcwT7kMV6d5.8wMjEb9vSyXKFPKy5ZZ4KIHDqLYeFyL9PLxtKfWgyeGd.W orQzFn_qVs0RWpzC6ox4mJTnn3Pmml3awBA2gqmHADhuTyLIQgDA6lK7Zn96 xrHvrdYb_leNswK.dVutoOl3gWSQnzKI_gdQF7NqaL8q4hVbZK2n_iaxypuw hqMYHED39BA8Ggk4akP4XoxE- Received: from [200.118.157.7] by web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2012 19:21:55 PDT X-RocketYMMF: giffunip X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 Message-ID: <1338344515.60530.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Pedro Giffuni Reply-To: pfg@apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, sebb In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi;=0A=0A--- Mar 29/5/12, sebb ha scritto:=0A=0A...=0A> = >=0A> > This is admittedly a stop gap solution to comply=0A> > better with = the Apache policies, the real fix would=0A> > be to work collectively on re= placing the code that=0A> > can be replaced:=0A> =0A> Alternatively, it is = possible to include cat B [1]=0A> dependencies in binary form.=0A=0AWe do t= his for FreeBSD and it works great.=0A=0A> Is there any need to include the= source?=0A>=0ANo. The real reason why OOo historically has carried=0Athe s= ources for everything is/was that previously the=0AGPL forced developers to= make the sources available.=0A=0AThe issue is the multiplatform support. F= or builders=0Aon platforms like Windows it's not really fun to go=0Alooking= for the different dependencies. This said,=0Afor Java stuff it is perfectl= y OK to include only=0Abinaries (except for our old saxon-B, which is=0Adep= recated upstream so we have to carry the sources=0Asomewhere)=0A=0A=0A> [1]= http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b=0A> =0AWhile [1] is t= he official document, I find the original=0Adraft policy explains things mu= ch better:=0A=0Ahttp://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html=0A=0Acheers,=0A=0AP= edro.