Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72ECEC906 for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 16:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3589 invoked by uid 500); 9 May 2012 16:49:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3397 invoked by uid 500); 9 May 2012 16:49:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 3389 invoked by uid 99); 9 May 2012 16:49:21 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 May 2012 16:49:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [205.178.146.65] (HELO omr15.networksolutionsemail.com) (205.178.146.65) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 May 2012 16:49:11 +0000 Received: from cm-omr5 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr15.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q49GmnI4006744 for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 12:48:49 -0400 Authentication-Results: cm-omr5 smtp.user=drew@baseanswers.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authenticated-UID: drew@baseanswers.com Received: from [207.255.220.76] ([207.255.220.76:38613] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by cm-omr5 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTPA id 0C/44-22294-1FF9AAF4; Wed, 09 May 2012 12:48:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Troll warning From: drew To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org In-Reply-To: <7B630EAE-1B03-447B-ABA4-EBD99C36E6A9@jaguNET.com> References: <90CA1F5D-1D3B-4030-9F5E-0500C74E85D0@webmink.com> <1336575785.7735.24.camel@sybil-gnome> <7B630EAE-1B03-447B-ABA4-EBD99C36E6A9@jaguNET.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: <1336582131.7735.57.camel@sybil-gnome> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 11:18 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > On May 9, 2012, at 11:03 AM, drew wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 10:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > >> There are a small number of active, vocal and > >> negative people at LibreOffice who like to beat up on OpenOffice and > >> the work we do here. > > > > That cuts both ways. > > That's true... In general though, I've found that if people > mention OpenOffice, that many LO-related people will immediately > jump in and turn the conversation towards LO (for example, > someone will post or tweet something about OpenOffice and > they will immediately reply "Hey, what about LibreOffice"), > but I don't see nearly that amount of the reverse behavior. > > I guess partly that's to be expected... > Hi Jim IMO 'back biting', is what I would call this, is easily the most destructive behavior that a person can partake in, eroding civility amongst voluntary associations, if not kept in check. It really is something that we all need to watch out for, directly. I will try to refrain myself, the only person I can actually control ;) and I think most of the folks I talk with on a regular basis on this list and across the different projects (L&O) lists do also - there are lots of 'extended associates', users, that will always do some of what you describe, it will likely even increase from them here over the short run, my guess anyway, but I think the core folks will not. On the other hand, there are two successful groups of people here, L and O, and there lots of Alpha's required to form successful groups on the scale of these groups... //drew