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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Starting the graduation process
Date Tue, 29 May 2012 17:35:06 GMT
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:18 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 13:15 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:16 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2012-05-28 at 14:50 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> >> On 05/28/12 14:25, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> > On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Pedro Giffuni<pfg@apache.org>
 wrote:
>> >> >> Hi Rob;
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 05/28/12 13:10, Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> >>> I'd like to start the graduation process, with the aim of being
a TLP
>> >> >>> in time for the 3.4.1 release.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The IPMC has a "Guide to Successful Graduation" page with a
lot of
>> >> >>> detail and advice:  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The calendar here is especially useful:
>> >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> It shows 4 steps:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1) a vote on ooo-dev (a community vote) on whether we want
to graduate now
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2) a discussion on ooo-dev leading to the draft of a charter
for the new
>> >> >>> TLP
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 3) an IPMC vote on whether or not to recommend the podling
for graduation
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 4) a vote by the ASF Board on a resolution creating the new
TLP
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This thread is just a proposal.  It is not the actual vote
called for
>> >> >>> in #1 above.  But I'd like to gauge current sentiment.  Are
we all +1
>> >> >>> for going ahead?  If not, please list what pre-graduation
tasks you
>> >> >>> believe need to be done first.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -Rob
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A reminder of a small, but IMHO significant, technical issue:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We do have to take the category-B tarballs out of the tree
>> >> >> before graduation.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Do we?   If I recall, there were multiple views on this and no
>> >> > consensus.  But you are welcome to make a concrete proposal.
>> >>
>> >> Yes the situation was specifically postponed as a graduation
>> >> issue, I am not going through that discussion again.
>> >>
>> >> I made a concrete proposal with two alternatives:
>> >>
>> >> - They are moved to a friendly ftp/http site.
>> >> - I step down from the PPMC to avoid the community
>> >> the pain of a -1 vote.
>> >
>> > Please do not do the second - I know that someone was putting forward
>> > the idea that a -1 vote on the first RC was enough to disqualify that
>> > person from serving on the PMC but that was something that I can't
>> > believe people in general would agree with.
>> >
>>
>> A citation, please?
>
> Juergen talking about the fellow that didn't think a trranslation
> (Finish I think it was) was up to date - if you want me to search the
> archive I will but it is there.
>

OK.  I think at that time some were under the impression that a -1 on
a release vote was a veto.  We now know that this is not the case.

> //drew
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>> >> Pedro.
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