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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Feedback on the CMS
Date Sat, 12 May 2012 01:33:37 GMT
On 11 May 2012 21:23, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> From: Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org>
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Feedback on the CMS
>>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>  With 1100 builds so far the ooo-site CMS instance
>>>  is only 350 builds behind www.apache.org as the
>>>  most-used CMS tree so far.  I monitor the CMS logs
>>>  daily to evaluate usage and this project publishes
>>>  about as often as all our other projects combined,
>>>  which really makes me wonder where we'd be here if
>>>  the org had never created the CMS in the first place.
>>>
>>
>> Wow.  Impressive stats.  I know I use it nearly on a daily basis.
>>
>>>
>>>  The ooo-site is far and away the largest instance at
>>>  over 9GB total.  The reason I'm writing here is to
>>>  ask general questions about user satisfaction with
>>>  the CMS:
>>>
>>>  1) Is there any aspect of the CMS that needs immediate
>>>     improvement?
>>>
>>
>> It works for me.
>>
>>
>>>  2) Are you satisfied with the workflow, or are there areas
>>>     that could stand improvement?
>>>
>>
>> For the novice, it would be useful to have more guidance text on what
>> to do next.   So maybe a streamlined "easy" interface, and then the
>> full version.
>
> Ok, thanks.  I dunno about a steamlined interface, but more inline
> documentation is probably called for.

Perhaps add a header bar to the pages to make it easy to navigate
between editing and build, staging and live.
It's not immediately obvious how to get back to the CMS, as there are
no back links (have to use the browser back button)

Or display such "external" pages in a new window, rather than
replacing the current page.

>>
>>
>>>  3) Is there anything that should be done to encourage more
>>>     users who are not committers to use the CMS to submit patches
>>>     to the list?
>>>
>>
>> There is a live markdown preview of changes, but none given for HTML
>> pages.  Since most of the openoffice.org site is still HTML, this
>> would be very useful and help catch errors before staging.
>
> There are security implications about using a project's rendering code
> within the CMS- it complicates things well beyond my threshold for that
> sort of thing.  When all else fails the Static view will render the core
> HTML natively with many of the linkages preserved, so you'll at least get
> some idea from that how things will look on staging post-build.
>
>
>>
>>>  4) Are there any UI features you'd like to see implemented,
>>>     either in the web interface or the publication script?
>>>
>>
>> In the web interface, something that would poll the build and
>> automatically refresh to the staging server when the build is
>> complete.
>
> Perhaps- I just added a similar feature to the publication script,
> and yes I'm having a hard time convincing users to pay attention
> to the build results before trying to publish.

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