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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
Date Thu, 03 May 2012 22:49:07 GMT
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> >>>>
> >>>>> Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Marcus,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Please review this task list and see if anything
is missing. It
> >>>>>>>>> would be great to confirm that this list is complete
and to have
> a
> >>>>>>>>> volunteer's name listed against each one of these
tasks.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Note the additional complexity caused by having
hard-coded
> download
> >>>>>>>>> logic on the various NL pages.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'll try to setup the separation for the OOo 3.3.0 download
links.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good idea to start.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The draft setup is finished. Please have a look here:
> >>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing. There
is
> >>>>>> text
> >>>>>> "green button" but there is no green "button".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The user might come to that page via search, but do not want
the
> >>>>>> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where to go.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please compare with http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
> ,
> >>>>>> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Legacy OpenOffice.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you are searching for the most recent installation set, please
> >>>>>> visit
> >>>>>> the<link>Apache OpenOffice download</link> webpage.
Please note that
> >>>>>> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security issues.
So,
> >>>>>> it's highly recommended not to use them but only when there
is no
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> and better choice.
> >>>>>> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General Public
> License
> >>>>>> v3 (LGPL v3)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is easier than
to
> >>>>> find
> >>>>> the right words. ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope it's more
> >>>>> clear now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marcus
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I've edited both webpages again:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
> >>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
> >>>>
> >>>> When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this as final.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
> >>>
> >>> I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the legacy
> >>> OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0. The
> >>
> >>
> >> I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
> >> infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big arrow
> >> pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
> >>
> >>> icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but clicking
> >>> does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
> >>
> >>
> >> In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse pointer to
> >> default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work.
> :-(
> >
> >
> > oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
> >
>
>
> I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a <p> and not
> have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
> like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.
>
> >
> >>
> >>> Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html page?
> >>
> >>
> >> I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav bar
> >> should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
> >
> >
> > OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
> >
> > Right now, we have --
> >
> >
> > Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
> packs
> > | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
> >
> > in the light green DL button options section on:
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
> >
> > the test DL page.
> >
> > Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu
> someplace...
> >
> > ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there!
> oops!)
> >
>
> Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone!
>
> One idea to support the legacy links:
>
> Right now we have three simple links under the top button:
>
> "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
> packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums"
>
> What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this:
>
> Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes |
> Signatures and Hashes
>

fine...


>
> (note in this version I've changed "MD5 checksum" to "Signatures and
> Hashes" since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well
> as a detached signature.   And that reminds me.... we'll need a page
> for that.
>

...uh, OK, where do we get them???? I don't see anything like this right
now in "dist" for example...

I can do both of these changes tomorrow probably.



>
> -Rob
>
> >
> >>
> >>> The other.html page looks and works fine.
> >
> >
> >
> >>>
> >>> Good work!
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Marcus
> >>
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
> >  And life has a funny way of helping you out
> >  Helping you out."
> >                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>



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MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

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