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From Kay Schenk <>
Subject Re: 3.4.1, 3.5?, 4.0 ...
Date Tue, 29 May 2012 17:12:18 GMT
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 4:30 AM, J├╝rgen Schmidt

> On 5/27/12 5:49 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> We seem to have a handle on what we're doing for a 3.4.1 release, and
>> quite
>> a number of ideas floating around for 4.0
>> AOO+4.0+Feature+Planning<>
>> and even 4.1 ?
>> AOO+4.1+Feature+Planning<>
>> I'm wondering if it's worth the time to put a more concerted effort (after
>> 3.4.1) into code cleanup, refactoring,etc., and do an intermediate release
>> *before* 4.0 as 3.5. There's been some discussion about this in the past
>> along with the complexity of the code, and I think maybe focusing on JUST
>> that aspect might serve us well in the long run. When I hear about 1 hour
>> builds, I'm thinking surely we can do better. That and the size of the
>> code
>> base concerns me. Again, I am not a coder on this project, and I do
>> realize
>> that taking things apart and putting them back together is NOT easy. So my
>> remarks may be very naive.
>> I really don't have a good sense of what it means to go from a 3.4 to 3.5,
>> etc.  either. It would be great if someone more intimately involved in
>> development could furnish some more information about that aspect on the
>> planning wiki.
> I think whatever we together or any individual is doing, our main focus
> should be on quality, stability and performance.

Oh absolutely! This is mandatory!

> We have so many areas where we can improve things and all of them are
> useful and will help the project.
> Code cleanup for example is an ongoing effort and yes it would be nice if
> would have for example support of the system/compiler STL already.
> All work in this direction is welcome and we will support everybody who is
> interested to work on these things. But it depends on the people who are
> interested to work on this. Volunteers should simply start doing it any
> should send patches ...

Well I will work on this. I just thought, given the size of the code base,
etc., if it were really possible to jettison whole segments, that would be
ideal and basically what I was thinking about. But, in my case, a little
knowledge is sometimes a dangerous thing! :)

I would NEVER EVER directly commit changes even though I have rights to do
so, without review by the code gurus. :)

> Nobody has said that we won't include code cleanup patches like removing
> of empty lines, newlines, unused code, remove or translate German comments
> etc. People should simply start doing it.

got it! When I posted this, I didn't know how much of this was already
ongoing or if certain areas had already been identified for probable fixes

> Build time improvements or general improvements of the build process are
> also welcome as any other contribution.
> We are open to everything and will support and help anybody who is
> interested to work on or with the code under the conditions of Apache and
> the project.
> Juergen


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