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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: [UX] New AOO User Experience Community
Date Fri, 18 May 2012 13:58:12 GMT

On May 18, 2012, at 6:22 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:

> 2012/5/18 J├╝rgen Schmidt <jogischmidt@googlemail.com>
> 
>> On 5/18/12 10:32 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>> 
>>> Erik,
>>> 
>>> Good stuff. Will do.
>>> 
>> 
>> do we really need such a separate page for UX community members? I don't
>> think so and I personally think it goes in the wrong direction.
>> 
> 
> There's nothing to loose, in my view. But I wouldn't call UX a "community".
> I would call it a "team".

Yes, please call it a "team" or "interest group".

We do not want to split the community into parts - the project is ONE community.

>> 
>> I am personally interested in many different areas of the project and
>> don't want to put my name on X different pages. My contribution in the
>> different areas will be also different and will change from time to time.
>> 

Ditto.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> If you are interested in many areas (just like me) you are free to decide
> if you will place your name in all of them, or none. I don't see a problem
> with that. But if I am deeply involved with some project, I would like to
> place my name on it, for sure. Also, it's important from the user's point
> of view, to know who are the contacts for the issues they have. And a new
> contributor who wishes to have a larger involvement with the UX activities
> (and others too) should be able to identify who else is involved.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Such a page doesn't really reflect who is doing the work and is
>> potentially misleading.
>> 
> 
> Again, I don't think so. Indeed, it doesn't reflect who is doing the job,
> but it gives a clue. It would be worst if users have no clue about that.
> And Mediawiki has features that can give stronger clues. It's matter of
> creating some sort of workflow. If there's a workflow, anyone can drive his
> task, without the need of a "coordinator". I could give you an example we
> done in LibO, but I preffer to show you our own example in AOO: Me and Raul
> are about to finish a workflow for PT-BR document translations page which
> is working very fine in LibO and we will make it work here too. When
> finished, anyone will be able to choose a document, translate it, submit it
> for revise, revise translation, and all the work of every contributor will
> be recorded.
> 
> This could be automated in certain level if we had a better wiki as I have
> asked for some days ago.
> 
> 
>> 
>> We have already a general project page with project members that doesn't
>> reflect the current situation in the project.
>> 
> 
> I agree to this point, but I think a general list "too general" for the
> average people. We should think about giving fast answers to AOO users,
> instead making them navigate through uncountable pages to find what they
> want. Do you have any idea of how difficult is for people to fill an issue
> in bugzilla, for example? Findind documentation either. And it's worst for
> those who can't read/write in English.
> 
> 
>> 
>> In general such pages are useless from my point of view and get outdated
>> very fast.
>> 
> 
> My personal/professional experience points to another direction. If UX has
> enthusiastic volunteers who take the task to themselves, they will take
> care of their workspace. And I think there are very enthusiastic people at
> this moment. And they wish to do that, but it will be useless if UX
> couldn't count on devs to hear what they have to say, because UX should be
> the channel between users and devs. The enthusiasm can go down very quickly.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Just my 2 ct
>> 
>> 
> Mine too.
> 
> 
>> Juergen
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> -- 
> Paulo de Souza Lima
> http://almalivre.wordpress.com
> Curitiba - PR
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