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From "Marcus (OOo)" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
Subject Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
Date Thu, 31 May 2012 19:23:52 GMT
Am 05/31/2012 07:56 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
> <orwittmann@googlemail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On 30.05.2012 22:09, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Roberto Galoppini<rgaloppini@geek.net>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
>>>> <orwittmann@googlemail.com>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22.05.2012 15:21, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like we can go with the "static" solution as a short-term
>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thus, I will do the following:
>>>>>> - Creation of a complete XML document
>>>>>> - Include entries for at least one languages for which we have
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> no AOO
>>>>>> 3.4 installation package.
>>>>>> - Providing the XML document and possible variants on [3] for testing
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> verification.
>>>>>> - Call for volunteers to test the XML document at [3].
>>>>>> - Integrate feedback, if we want to have direct download links or
links
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> certain existing web page for manual download.
>>>>>> - Activate the update service
>>>>>> -- move the final XML document to [4].
>>>>>> -- ask ASF infrastructure team to redirect OOo 3.3 Update URL [5]
to
>>>>>> [4].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My goal is to have the update service for OOo 3.3 running at the
end of
>>>>>> next week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any objections?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any volunteers in advance which want to test?
>>>>>> If yes, please provide information about your OOo 3.3 installation
>>>>>> (operating
>>>>>> system and language) and the test cases (direct download link, link
to
>>>>>> download
>>>>>> page, ...) you want to test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [3] http://people.apache.org/~orw/testupdateservice/
>>>>>> [4]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>>>> [5]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have finished the creation of an XML document. It contains a feed with
>>>>> entries for all platform and language combinations for which we have
an
>>>>> AOO
>>>>> 3.4 installation package.
>>>>> Each entry provides a link to web page [6]. This web page is a currently
>>>>> empty landing page for our OOo 3.3 users. On this page we can provide
>>>>> information about our new home at the Apache Software Foundation and
our
>>>>> AOO
>>>>> 3.4 release. From here we can direct our OOo 3.3 to our download page
>>>>> [7].
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Oliver,
>>>>
>>>>   could we eventually jointly work on a test phase for a fraction of
>>>> the user base? Maybe we could enable the auto-updates for a given
>>>> language, or so. Actually this could help us to make some realistic
>>>> assumptions on the total load, and if needed the necessary adjustments
>>>> to ensure the optimal performance.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, if we know from existing AOO 3.4 downloads that language/platform
>>> X is Y% of the total, then if we test the OOo 3.3 upgrade with only X,
>>> we can project what the total upgrade volume would be.  That sounds
>>> reasonable.
>>>
>>>
>>>>   Ideally we'd like to start the test phase as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>
>> Ok.
>> Roberto, Rob and Kay are in favor to activate the update service only for a
>> part of the possible OOo 3.3 instances in order to check, if the traffic can
>> be handled. No objections from my side.
>>
>> One important remark which I had not given yet:
>> When we had the redirect from [5] to [4] established by the ASF
>> infrastructure team, all (yes, all) installed OOo 3.3 instances in which the
>> check of updates is initiated will get the XML document. Whose which find an
>> entry with their data (language, platform, architecture) will state that an
>> update is available. All the others will state that the OOo 3.3 installation
>> is up to date.
>>
>>
>> To start this first phase the following tasks need to be finished:
>> (1) Choose the OOo 3.3 candidates for the first phase.
>> -- orw's proposal: italian on all four platforms
>> (2) Get in contact with the ASF infrastructure team to get the redirect
>> established at a certain day.
>> -- orw is volunteering for this task
>> (3) Fill the landing page [6] with content and links and activate tracking
>> for this page.
>> -- at least one volunteer is needed here.
>> (4) Choose the time frame for the first phase.
>> -- orw's proposal: 2012-07-05 until 2012-07-08 (if redirect can be
>> established on Tuesday, 2012-07-05 and task (3) can be finished until
>> Monday.)
>>
>>
>> BTW, as we have for each language own entries in the XML document we can
>> provide translated landing pages if somebody is willing to translate the
>> "master" landing page.
>>
>
> Is the text in the dialog box in OOo 3.3 localized?  The text that
> says an update is available, please go to this page to download?  Or
> is that in English only?

A second ago I've tried it also with German and I get a German text in 
the dialog box.

Marcus



> One approach might be to have the landing page be the NL home page,
> e.g., http://de.openoffice.org.   These already exist, and either have
> the download links on that page, or have text that explains how to
> download.  (En is the exception -- we'd send them to
> http://download.openoffice.org directly)
>
> To distinguish these visits from non-upgrade visits, we could tag them
> using URL parameters in a way that Google Analytics can understand.
>
> For example:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download.html?utm_source=OOo3_3&utm_medium=Client&utm_campaign=Upgrade
>
> or
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/de/index.html?utm_source=OOo3_3&utm_medium=Client&utm_campaign=Upgrade
>
> or
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/it/index.html?utm_source=OOo3_3&utm_medium=Client&utm_campaign=Upgrade
>
> The extra parameters would be ignored by our website, but GA would
> understand them.
>
> One other question:  does this take care of OOo 3.2 upgrades as well?
> Do we think there are many out there?
>
> -Rob
>
>> [6]
>> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/index.html
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.

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