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From "Marcus (OOo)" <marcus.m...@wtnet.de>
Subject Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce
Date Fri, 04 May 2012 19:32:44 GMT
Am 05/04/2012 06:17 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/03/2012 02:59 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 05/03/2012 11:33 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 04/29/2012 11:50 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please review this task list and see
if anything is missing.
>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be great to confirm that this list
is complete and to
>> have
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteer's name listed against each
one of these tasks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note the additional complexity caused
by having hard-coded
>>>> download
>>>>>>>>>>>>> logic on the various NL pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to setup the separation for the
OOo 3.3.0 download
>> links.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good idea to start.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The draft setup is finished. Please have a look
here:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The interaction of the orange and green part is confusing.
There
>> is
>>>>>>>>>> text
>>>>>>>>>> "green button" but there is no green "button".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The orange text itself is a hyperlink, but what target?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The user might come to that page via search, but
do not want the
>>>>>>>>>> "legacy" but an actual version. I miss a hint, where
to go.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please compare with
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html
>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>> from where I took the sentence in my suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I suggest to use the orange part as information box.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Legacy OpenOffice.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are searching for the most recent installation
set, please
>>>>>>>>>> visit
>>>>>>>>>> the<link>Apache OpenOffice download</link>
 webpage. Please note
>> that
>>>>>>>>>> archived builds are unsupported and may contain security
issues.
>> So,
>>>>>>>>>> it's highly recommended not to use them but only
when there is no
>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>> and better choice.
>>>>>>>>>> OpenOffice.org is licensed under the GNU Lesser General
Public
>>>> License
>>>>>>>>>> v3 (LGPL v3)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Download OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the hints. To do the HTML and JS stuff is
easier than
>> to
>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>> the right words. ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Due to the CSS stuff I had to modify it a bit. I hope
it's more
>>>>>>>>> clear now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've edited both webpages again:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html
>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/other.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I don't hear any further feedback I'll publish this
as final.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/legacy/index.html:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I expected something to happen when I clicked on the "Get the
legacy
>>>>>>> OpenOffice.org" button. But nothing does. WinXP/Firefox 12.0.
The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've removed the link function and used the box just to show the
>>>>>> infomational text. Therefore only a red color box without the big
>> arrow
>>>>>> pointing down on mouseover (compare with the green box).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> icon changed from an arrow to a hand when over that box, but
>> clicking
>>>>>>> does nothing. The other boxes work fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In CSS (.../legacy/exceptions.css) I've already set the mouse
>> pointer to
>>>>>> default - which should show as arrow - but this doesn't seem to work.
>>>> :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> oh boy...the trials and tribulations of css
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if it would be simpler to just put that info in a<p>  and
not
>>>> have a box at all.  Boxes seem to lead the user to click.  It looks
>>>> like a button.  So if we have nothing to click, then don't use a box.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we know how this will be linked from the /download/index.html
>> page?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think there was no idea mentioned yet. A link in the right nav
bar
>>>>>> should be enough - instead of a bigger colored box in the middle.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, so how DO we want this linked in?
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, we have --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
>>>> packs
>>>>> | Release Notes | MD5 checksums
>>>>>
>>>>> in the light green DL button options section on:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>>>>
>>>>> the test DL page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we want to add something here, or add a it in the side menu
>>>> someplace...
>>>>>
>>>>> ( and I just noticed some additional things I need to change there!
>>>> oops!)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, it looks much nicer now that the alerts are gone!
>>>>
>>>> One idea to support the legacy links:
>>>>
>>>> Right now we have three simple links under the top button:
>>>>
>>>> "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, language
>>>> packs | Release Notes | MD5 checksums"
>>>>
>>>> What if we shortened the first link, and added another one, like this:
>>>>
>>>> Other Platforms and Languages | Older Versions | Release Notes |
>>>> Signatures and Hashes
>>>>
>>>
>>> fine...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> (note in this version I've changed "MD5 checksum" to "Signatures and
>>>> Hashes" since the Apache releases come with 2 differnt hashes as well
>>>> as a detached signature.   And that reminds me.... we'll need a page
>>>> for that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ...uh, OK, where do we get them???? I don't see anything like this right
>>> now in "dist" for example...
>>>
>>
>> They are all over the place, in the individual NL directories, e.g.:
>>
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_langpack-deb_ar.tar.gz.md5
>>
>> It will be painful to create a page of all of these links:  6
>> platforms x 16 languages x 3 hashes
>>
>> We should probably have the script that generates all the hashes also
>> generate the HTML page that contains these links, or generate at least
>> the<table>.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
> Rob--
>
> OK, I see. Yeah, complicated...I think you should post this as a separate
> item to the list of starters. I'm wondering since they're named like the
> packages with additional extensions if we could somehow supply them (as
> separate DL links WITH the package), but a new table would be better...

Done. And I'll take over this task.

Marcus



>>> I can do both of these changes tomorrow probably.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other.html page looks and works fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus

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