Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D1FEC3E0 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:56:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14944 invoked by uid 500); 30 Apr 2012 21:56:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14873 invoked by uid 500); 30 Apr 2012 21:56:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14865 invoked by uid 99); 30 Apr 2012 21:56:44 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:56:44 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-vx0-f175.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username robweir, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:56:43 +0000 Received: by vcbfl13 with SMTP id fl13so2633895vcb.6 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.88.2 with SMTP id bc2mr2447915vdb.82.1335823002715; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.118.147 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4F997396.3080106@gmail.com> <4F9B1569.10704@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:56:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RELEASE} a few DL questions... From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wr= ote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Kay Schenk wrote= : >> >> >> On 04/27/2012 01:57 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rob Weir =C2=A0wro= te: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini >>>> =C2=A0wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Weir =C2=A0w= rote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Kay Schenk >>>>>> =C2=A0wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been working on a prototype of the DL button in the >>>>>>> /download/test area >>>>>>> given our discussions about split mirror setup for 3.4 etc. I have = a >>>>>>> =EF=BF=BDfew >>>>>>> more edits to do =EF=BF=BDbefore sending out a notification about f= inal review >>>>>>> (later today). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But...I have a few questions for this release. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * The DL scripts have a good amount of logic surrounding the >>>>>>> naming/download >>>>>>> of 3.2 and 3.1 releases-- the "old" naming schema. Since we won't b= e >>>>>>> providing "friendly" DL buttons for these anymore, is it safe to pu= ll >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> stuff out? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * DL locations for Mac PPC and FreeBSD are as follows (excuse >>>>>>> wrapping): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> var MIRROR_MAC_PPC_URL =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=3D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/macospp= c/"; >>>>>>> var MIRROR_FREEBSD32_URL =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=3D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsd= x86/"; >>>>>>> var MIRROR_FREEBSD64_URL =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD=3D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsd= x86-64/"; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will this still be the case or will all versions be served from eit= her >>>>>>> Apache or SourceForge? The DL logic needs to be changed if this >>>>>>> alternate >>>>>>> URL is not used. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the main download link should only provide links to official >>>>>> AOO releases. =EF=BF=BD We could have another section (maybe in othe= r.html) >>>>>> where we can point to third party binaries and ports. =EF=BF=BDBut w= e should >>>>>> have a disclaimer making it clear that these packages are not offici= al >>>>>> releases. >>>>>> >>>>>> I also agree that we should not inter-mix 3.3 and 3.4 downloads. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another thing to consider is how we actually invoke the download. >>>>>> Right now we simply link to the SF site. =EF=BF=BDSo after the downl= oad is >>>>>> done the user is left sitting at SF. =EF=BF=BDThis is not ideal. =EF= =BF=BD =EF=BF=BDI wonder >>>>>> whether it would be better to load the SF page in a new page, via >>>>>> target=3D"_blank" and then refresh our download.html to contribute.h= tml >>>>>> so after the download is done, and the user closes the SF page, they >>>>>> are back in the openoffice website with a "thanks for downloading" >>>>>> messsage and followup info to engage the user in the community. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Actually to avoid to open new pages we did modify the download page b= y >>>>> adding all info previously available. >>>>> We have been beta testing for over a week, and is now live. Hope this >>>>> will remove the need to open new pages. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Roberto, >>>> >>>> So what we have today looks like this: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.= 0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_en-US.exe/download >>>> >>>> After the download, on the left, are some boxes that contain all the >>>> info that we used to show to the user here: >>>> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/contribute.html >>>> >>>> That is good, since it gives several different ways for the user to >>>> engage with the project, etc. >>>> >>>> However, it is less prominent than before and does require additional >>>> mouse clicks to navigate the different sections. =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDI = think it is less >>>> effective than what we had before. =EF=BF=BDFor example, I'm seeing on= ly 47 >>>> referrals since April 11th from SF to our "Get Involved" paged, the >>>> first link given. =EF=BF=BDWe used to get hundreds of these from the o= ld >>>> contribute.html page. >>>> >>>> I wonder if simpler would be better? =EF=BF=BDSo instead of the pop-up= page >>>> which I suggested before, and which is annoying for some users, maybe >>>> keep the SF as it is, but make the content simpler, with the aim of >>>> referring users back to contribute.html. >>>> >>>> So something like this: >>>> >>>> Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open >>>> productivity suit. =EF=BF=BD We invite you to learn more about how to = enhance >>>> your experience with OpenOffice, sign up to receive important >>>> notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next >>>> version of OpenOffice even better". >>>> >>>> If we make it short and sweet like that, maybe even use some of the >>>> AOO graphical elements, then mayb we can improve the engagement? >>>> But I'm not a web UI/marketing expert. =EF=BF=BDMaybe someone has some= other >>>> ideas. >>> >>> >>> Working on it, it will be operative by next Monday. >>> >>> >>> Roberto >>> >> >> I love what SourceForge has done here by the way! Very nice! and very >> creative from the norm. > > Here we go, we put the suggested text with some links, plus the > Participate icon. For example: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/it/3= .3.0/OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_it.dmg/download > I like it. Thanks! -Rob > Roberto > > >> >>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> >>>>> Roberto >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Rob >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your time. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- >>>>>>> MzK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you >>>>>>> =EF=BF=BDAnd life has a funny way of helping you out >>>>>>> =EF=BF=BDHelping you out." >>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF= =BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD--= "Ironic", Alanis Morissette >>>>> >>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D >>>>> This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) abov= e. >>>>> It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are no= t the >>>>> intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, >>>>> distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is stric= tly >>>>> prohibited. 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