Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75E0797A9 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 75139 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2012 18:40:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 75062 invoked by uid 500); 24 Apr 2012 18:40:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 75054 invoked by uid 99); 24 Apr 2012 18:40:02 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:40:02 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.30.24 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.30.24] (HELO qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.24) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:39:51 +0000 Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1uTm1j0051Y3wxoA2ufWsd; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:39:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.74] ([67.180.51.144]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1ufV1j00436gVt78bufV19; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:39:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1 From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: <37045597-4D49-49B9-A00F-B3A03312EFB7@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:39:29 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <00d701cd1ff9$83529e80$89f7db80$@apache.org> <4F934113.300@gmail.com> <39FA8470-4C94-45BE-83D7-C86472B005C8@comcast.net> <406279F7-88DF-4BF0-A065-11FE1B3BB5BC@comcast.net> <37045597-4D49-49B9-A00F-B3A03312EFB7@comcast.net> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >=20 > On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Dave Fisher = wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>=20 >>>> >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> You snipped out the important part: >>>=20 >>=20 >> Sorry, thought you answered your own question there. But since you >> bring it up, there is no requirement for a DISCLAIMER file. There is >> however a requirement for making the user aware of the incubation >> disclaimer. See this page, where several options are listed: >>=20 >> = http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#notes-disclaimer= >=20 > Keep in mind that page is clearly labeled as a "DRAFT". >=20 > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#status >=20 > The DISCLAIMER file is certainly in the correct place in the Source = distribution. Well, I was not correct here. It is in the SVN, but fails to make it = into any of the distributions. I did a MacOSX build, reviewed the NOTICE, LICENSE, rat-exclude and rat = output from a nightly build. An amazing job was done with the Headers and the RAT report! Here are my concerns: (1) DISCLAIMER ought to be included in all packages. We'll have to see = if this is a SHOULD or a MUST. (2) LICENSE contains copyright statements which ought to be part of the = NOTICE file. Again we'll see if this is a SHOULD or a MUST.=20 (3) When building from source there was no warning about the inclusion = of Category B? I think that the Building Guide should be edited to more = clearly explain the ext_sources and ext_libraries. I know we have the = information. It is more making this clear. Again, I'm not sure if it a = SHOULD or a MUST for a build to pause and get explicit permission to = download category B. Regards, Dave >=20 > I think that I answered the question, but I would like to ask our = project Mentors if this will be an issue in IPMC voting. I've seen = enough on general@i.a.o to know that it may be for some and not others. >=20 > So, while this is not a problem for me, if it is likely IPMC will = request an RC2 over this we should know now. >=20 > Regards, > Dave >=20 >>=20 >> -Rob >>=20 >>> The SDK and Binaries are missing the DISCLAIMER file. Is a missing = Incubation DISCLAIMER in a binary package enough to prevent release? I = think probably not, but this may be an edge case. The application = pop-ups do mention "Incubation" and every page linked back to = thewww.openoffice.org shows the Disclaimer... >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> -Rob >>>=20 >=20