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On 04/30/2012 02:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 04/27/2012 01:57 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini<rgaloppini@geek.net>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Weir<robweir@apache.org>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Kay Schenk<kay.schenk@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been working on a prototype of the DL button in the
>>>>>>> /download/test area
>>>>>>> given our discussions about split mirror setup for 3.4 etc. I have a
>>>>>>> �few
>>>>>>> more edits to do �before sending out a notification about final review
>>>>>>> (later today).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But...I have a few questions for this release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * The DL scripts have a good amount of logic surrounding the
>>>>>>> naming/download
>>>>>>> of 3.2 and 3.1 releases-- the "old" naming schema. Since we won't be
>>>>>>> providing "friendly" DL buttons for these anymore, is it safe to pull
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> stuff out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * DL locations for Mac PPC and FreeBSD are as follows (excuse
>>>>>>> wrapping):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> var MIRROR_MAC_PPC_URL � � �=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/macosppc/";
>>>>>>> var MIRROR_FREEBSD32_URL � �=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86/";
>>>>>>> var MIRROR_FREEBSD64_URL � �=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86-64/";
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will this still be the case or will all versions be served from either
>>>>>>> Apache or SourceForge? The DL logic needs to be changed if this
>>>>>>> alternate
>>>>>>> URL is not used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the main download link should only provide links to official
>>>>>> AOO releases. � We could have another section (maybe in other.html)
>>>>>> where we can point to third party binaries and ports. �But we should
>>>>>> have a disclaimer making it clear that these packages are not official
>>>>>> releases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also agree that we should not inter-mix 3.3 and 3.4 downloads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another thing to consider is how we actually invoke the download.
>>>>>> Right now we simply link to the SF site. �So after the download is
>>>>>> done the user is left sitting at SF. �This is not ideal. � �I wonder
>>>>>> whether it would be better to load the SF page in a new page, via
>>>>>> target="_blank" and then refresh our download.html to contribute.html
>>>>>> so after the download is done, and the user closes the SF page, they
>>>>>> are back in the openoffice website with a "thanks for downloading"
>>>>>> messsage and followup info to engage the user in the community.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually to avoid to open new pages we did modify the download page by
>>>>> adding all info previously available.
>>>>> We have been beta testing for over a week, and is now live. Hope this
>>>>> will remove the need to open new pages.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Roberto,
>>>>
>>>> So what we have today looks like this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_en-US.exe/download
>>>>
>>>> After the download, on the left, are some boxes that contain all the
>>>> info that we used to show to the user here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/contribute.html
>>>>
>>>> That is good, since it gives several different ways for the user to
>>>> engage with the project, etc.
>>>>
>>>> However, it is less prominent than before and does require additional
>>>> mouse clicks to navigate the different sections. � �I think it is less
>>>> effective than what we had before. �For example, I'm seeing only 47
>>>> referrals since April 11th from SF to our "Get Involved" paged, the
>>>> first link given. �We used to get hundreds of these from the old
>>>> contribute.html page.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if simpler would be better? �So instead of the pop-up page
>>>> which I suggested before, and which is annoying for some users, maybe
>>>> keep the SF as it is, but make the content simpler, with the aim of
>>>> referring users back to contribute.html.
>>>>
>>>> So something like this:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open
>>>> productivity suit. � We invite you to learn more about how to enhance
>>>> your experience with OpenOffice, sign up to receive important
>>>> notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next
>>>> version of OpenOffice even better".
>>>>
>>>> If we make it short and sweet like that, maybe even use some of the
>>>> AOO graphical elements, then mayb we can improve the engagement?
>>>> But I'm not a web UI/marketing expert. �Maybe someone has some other
>>>> ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> Working on it, it will be operative by next Monday.
>>>
>>>
>>> Roberto
>>>
>>
>> I love what SourceForge has done here by the way! Very nice! and very
>> creative from the norm.
> 
> Here we go, we put the suggested text with some links, plus the
> Participate icon. For example:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/it/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_it.dmg/download
> 
> Roberto
> 

super! SF is a wonderful "partner".

> 
>>
>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Roberto
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your time.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>>>> �And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>>>> �Helping you out."
>>>>>>> � � � � � � � � � � � � � �-- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
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