From ooo-dev-return-16490-apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Apr 13 09:23:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C86279FC4 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67691 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2012 09:23:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 67435 invoked by uid 500); 13 Apr 2012 09:23:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 67408 invoked by uid 99); 13 Apr 2012 09:23:21 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:23:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jogischmidt@googlemail.com designates 209.85.210.48 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.48] (HELO mail-pz0-f48.google.com) (209.85.210.48) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:23:15 +0000 Received: by dadp12 with SMTP id p12so4524390dad.7 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:22:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qIArDhya84Y99jB0nD5vLrB0FnusW4U0GizteIIZRck=; b=MGT83rTM2IvTkEpM8CfOZiEA1XJZMeb5oh6lkth6yrfZ2RDBlLW2Vz6+uRU3PRw6Zn ky6cdEFKdSZqEwXIHqg31RZU4wkhkWiN2bDAL0ukcRzuZfdvRxjae5Srjrok4rmLb4yu HboGw4L+3baaI+g7bBOWaAnkuCvymMgIhKZl3Y/JjFbj9oluV1tkW96urYT6Sc7W4gTy DFDgHGT4GuLBajGA2vNv224C1XhDv5EFIpsuFVuGDWixeTsb4RBdcAL0eI9UqE8Wtchx UY7QRMgcLcPhcDMPjbGmgXYDuXiEcNjQNdL9F09yK+UKTcZbIDoO0z2PzNDW+VanMsa8 NufQ== Received: by 10.68.134.8 with SMTP id pg8mr3146088pbb.152.1334308975665; Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [9.123.154.220] ([202.108.130.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm8236353pbc.7.2012.04.13.02.22.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F87F039.3000402@googlemail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 11:22:01 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Schmidt?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Is there any way to reach extension authors? References: <4F86ED45.7070105@googlemail.com> <42F1F547-FAE4-4B71-A515-96DCF6A21B62@gmail.com> <4F8761B2.9070300@gmx.de> <4F8784A1.4080108@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 4/13/12 3:54 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > 2012/4/12 Jürgen Schmidt > >> On 4/13/12 1:13 AM, Christoph Jopp wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Am 12.04.2012 17:45, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-04-12, at 15:57 , Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 4/12/12 4:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Roberto Galoppini< >>>>>>> rgaloppini@geek.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:02 AM, Rob Weir >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it would be good if we could get them the message that AOO >>>>>>>>> 3.4 >>>>>>>>> should be released soon, and that they are invited to >>>>>>>>> download/install >>>>>>>>> our latest dev back and verify that their extensions work and make >>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>> needed updates. We would point them also to the details of the >>>>>>>>> changes described in the readme file. Of course, we hope that no >>>>>>>>> changes are needed, but it is worth checking. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How would we get such a message out? There is no mailing list of >>>>>>>>> extension authors, right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We could contact Extensions' authors via direct mailing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> How? Is this something that SF can send out, if we draft the text? >>>>>>> Also, is there any community mailing list or forum for extension >>>>>>> authors? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I guided all subscribers of the former api and extensions dev mailing >>>>>> list to our ooo-dev list. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think it actually also makes sense to initiate a new effort to get >>>>> extension writers. We did this several years ago, but at the time, b/c of >>>>> the typical politics of some big corporations, we ran up against some >>>>> obstacles, that I think won't exist now. >>>>> >>>>> What I would like to do, then, is to have a programme that could work >>>>> with community colleges such as Seneca, with which I have contacts and with >>>>> which OOo had worked before, and with universities Eric B. has worked with. >>>>> As well, with the many smaller companies making up the ecosystem. >>>>> >>>>> Do keep in mind that we realized many years ago that the best way to >>>>> expand the developer and contributor community of OOo was via the >>>>> extensions. It was this idea that impelled me, that compelled Juergen, that >>>>> stimulated the early creators of the Extensions project. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Would it make sense to start with a new list, ooo-extension-authors or >>>> similar, with the aim to: >>>> >>>> 1) Develop a community of extension authors, where they can share tips >>>> and techniques with each other, as well as with the AOO programmers. >>>> >>>> 2) Provide a single place where the AOO PMC can give head's up warning >>>> of API changes or additions, advertise the availability of new dev >>>> snapshots, and in general try to coordinate a release cycle where AOO >>>> releases are accompanied by simultaneous availability high quality 3rd >>>> party extensions. >>>> >>>> 3) Provide a place for new extension authors to ask questions and get >>>> support >>>> >>>> I think in most Apache projects, the "users" list would be where such >>>> topics would be handled. But our "users" are end users, not developer >>>> users. So we would want a different list for this. >>>> >>>> (ooo-dev was another logical place for this, but I think the traffic >>>> level would be a deterrent for someone who is only interested in >>>> extensions) >>>> >>> >>> +1000 to all three points. >>> >> >> well, it was the initial idea to create further lists on demand. I don't >> see this demand at the moment and would prefer if we continue for now here >> on the list by simply using the tags [API],[EXTENSIONS] that we have >> introduced at the beginning. That would make it easy for all to create >> filter to focus on this email but it would also allows others (newcomers) >> to see, read and join efforts that going into this direction. >> > > In case you might need, you could consider to use the > forum/mailing-list/wiki features at the Extensions project page on > SourceForge. Of course this wouldn't lock you in because you'll have access > to all data and the SourceForge platform itself is open source. > thanks Roberto for pointing this out this further option. But I would prefer to concentrate this communication here on the lists. We shouldn't split the development groups too much Juergen > Roberto > > > >> >> >> Juergen >> >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>> louis >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Juergen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Roberto >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Rob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ==== >>>>>>>> This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) >>>>>>>> above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are >>>>>>>> not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, >>>>>>>> distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly >>>>>>>> prohibited. 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