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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: svn commit: r1310437 [1/2] - in /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content: distribution/cdrom/iso_download.html download/download.js download/globalvars.js download/other.html
Date Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:54:49 GMT
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Am 04/06/2012 11:14 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 04/06/2012 10:44 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've reverted this change as the main download link wasn't working.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, let's see how to fix and test this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you need to clear your browser cache?  It works fine for me and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How to delete the cache when it's already at 0 bytes? ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>> several others who have been testing it all day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have done the commit ~5 hours ago. What do you mean with "all day".
>>> Is
>>> this American slang that just done understand?
>>>
>>
>> Shall we review?
>>
>> 1. Roberto posted a note asking for help testing the SF CDN handing of
>> downloads from our website.  That was 4 days ago.  You did not offer
>> to help.
>
>
> I'm very sorry that I haven't reacted in time. When trying to keep the
> overview with dozend x dozend mails per days it's sometimes hard.
>
>
>> 2. I, who have plenty of other things I could be doing today, did
>> offer to help.  I worked with Roberto to get the patches, reviewed
>
>
> Yes, 2 days later.
>

Yes, which still gave you 2 more days to raise any concerns.

>
>> them, tested them and pushed them out to the production server.
>
>
> Outside of the mailing list? You should know that all should happen here.
> ;-)
>

It was in a BZ issue as well.

>
>> 3.  I sent a note to ooo-dev to explain exactly what I was doing.
>
>
> That was today. ~1 1/2 hours after you have committed the patches.
>

The other way around.  My patch was committed at 12:14pm. But my note
went out at 10:34am, hours earlier.

>
>> 4.  I then remained in contact with SF, giving feedback, comparing the
>> Apache numbers in Google Analytics with what they were seeing, making
>> sure we were not losing any users.
>>
>> 5. You then come in, without explaining anything, start messing with
>> the test, undoing changes, making other changes, some on staging, some
>> on production,etc.  This was very disruptive to the testing effort.
>
>
> I've offered my help. But, yes, too late. You had already committed the
> patches.
>
> You haven't sent an answer to my offer until now.
>
>
>> Let's try to coordinate a little better next time, OK?  Maybe start by
>> describing in a little more detail what you are currently doing and
>> how that will help us with this joint test with SourceForge?
>
>
> Good idea.
>
> A really honest suggestion:
>
> Please wait with such actions more than just 1-2 hours. Maybe some others
> would like to help but cannot spend so much time here.
>

I waited 2 days.  Roberto waited 4 days.  If there is something you
are really interested in working with, but don't have time right at
this second, then speak up.  I'm happy to hold on something and delay
it if it is important to you.  But I cannot read your mind.  You will
need to speak up.

> I don't get paid to work here. I've to earn my money now outside of the
> OOo/AOO world and cannot be here while the daylight. For you it's different.
> You are able to react (more or less ;-) ) immediatelly.
>

I waited 4 days.  Not exactly immediately.  In any case, the issue
here (IMHO) is poor communications.  If someone is doing a test, then
be very careful before you mess with the test.  And if you do, please
communicate carefully what you are doing and why.

Thanks,

-Rob

> Thanks
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>>> Am 04/06/2012 06:14 PM, schrieb robweir@apache.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Modified: incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/globalvars.js
>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/globalvars.js?rev=1310437&r1=1310436&r2=1310437&view=diff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>> --- incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/globalvars.js
>>>>>> (original)
>>>>>> +++ incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/globalvars.js Fri
>>>>>> Apr
>>>>>>  6
>>>>>> 16:14:08 2012
>>>>>> @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  // The most recent stable release
>>>>>>  var VERSION        = "3.3.0";
>>>>>> -var MIRROR         = "mirrorbrain";
>>>>>> +var MIRROR         = "sourceforge";
>>>>>>  var SCHEMA         = "new";

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