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From Alexandro Colorado <>
Subject Re: Pages in the social media
Date Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:31:11 GMT
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Alexandro Colorado <> wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Alexandro Colorado <> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti <>
>>>>>> Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>>>>>>> I am not sure what you mean by time is running out. Even if release
>>>>>>> date approaches there is no deadline to talk strategy and a good
>>>>>>> to manage more than publish.
>>>>>> When OpenOffice 3.4 is released, it is very likely that the press
>>>>>> will contain links to the "main" or "official" Apache OpenOffice
>>>>>> it wouldn't make sense to change them later and it is obvious that
we can
>>>>>> advertise only channels that are under control of several PPMC members.
>>>>> But the official ones are already set up.  We've already had this
>>>>> discussion.  The accounts are set up and they have already been shared
>>>>> with the PPMC .  We already have several PPMC co-authors on them.
>>>>> They are already linked to on the website.  Announcements have already
>>>>> gone out to ooo-announce.  They are already in the AOO 3.4
>>>>> announcement draft.  Content is going out on these channels, from the
>>>>> PPMC, on a daily basis.  This is all already done, in preparation for
>>>>> the AOO 3.4 launch.
>>>> It would be good if you close those accounts and work with the ones
>>>> that were already working. Like I said before doesnt make sense to
>>>> duplicate efforts.
>>> Like your Google+ page that has not had a post since last November?
>>> What is your excuse there?   Google+ has integrated multi-author
>>> support.  You don't need to spend months "investigating" alternative
>>> tooling.  It is already there.
>> You are free to investigate and post there as well. The info has been
>> public since 2 years ago on how to post. there is no need to actually
>> go through creating new accounts.
>>> To me it looks like you are merely hoarding.  You signed up for that
>>> account on the exact day that Google enabled business pages on
>>> Google+.  But then you did nothing with it but sit on it.  You've made
>>> zero effort to enable the PPMC to work with these accounts.   You
>>> started zero threads on how best to use the account.  You've made zero
>>> offers to share access with the PPMC.
>> When google plus started there was no way on ad-hoc users to it, now
>> the Google plus account have 7 managers that can post at any time.
> If it didn't happen on the list it didn't happen.  Please show me the
> thread where you  asked for PPMC members to volunteer for that
> account, and where they responded.

Please show me the thread where PPMC members asked to help for those accounts.

> -Rob
>>> As I said before, hoarding is a losing strategy at Apache.  Those who
>>> share will see their DNA survive.
>>> -Rob
>>>>> This isn't about personal control.  This is about sharing.  Those who
>>>>> hoard will be passed by and left behind.  Those who work through the
>>>>> process and openly share and enable others with see their initiatives
>>>>> succeed.  It is that simple.  You cannot control by withholding.
>>>>> If you (or any other PPMC member) would like to be added as a
>>>>> co-author to the Twitter or Google+ account, please let me know and I
>>>>> will add you immediately.  If you want to be an author on the Facebook
>>>>> group, talk to Raphael.
>>>>>> At that point, everybody, from the PPMC or not, will still be welcome
>>>>>> open a channel dedicated to OpenOffice (respecting the trademark
>>>>>> but these channels would be "secondary" or "unofficial".
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>  Andrea.

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