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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist
Date Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:44:44 GMT
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> jogischmidt@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4/27/12 10:09 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/27/2012 12:47 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 04/27/2012 09:34 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 27, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Am 04/27/2012 08:49 PM, schrieb J�rgen Schmidt:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/27/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/4/27 J�rgen Schmidt<jogischmidt@**googlemail.com<jogischmidt@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to be prepared for the upcoming release I plan to use
the following
>>>>>>>>> directory structure on
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/ooo<https://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo<https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Existing
>>>>>>>>> 3.3
>>>>>>>>> 3.3/patches
>>>>>>>>> 3.3/patches/cve-2012-0037/...
>>>>>>>>> DATE
>>>>>>>>> KEYS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> New added:
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/source
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/windows/...
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/windows/languagepacks/..****.
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/macos/...
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/macos/languagepacks/...
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/linux-x86/...
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/linux-x86/languagepacks/****...
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/linux-x86-64/...
>>>>>>>>> 3.4.0/linux-x86-64/****languagepacks/...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 16 languages: en-US ar cs de en-GB es fr gl hu it ja
nl ru pr-BR
>>>>>>>>> zh-CN
>>>>>>>>> zh-TW
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do we need to prepare or adapt the download page?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juergen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juergen--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will considerably change the current logic being used.
Is
>>>>>>>> there some
>>>>>>>> reason you don't want to use the existing setup of:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> root DL area/files/stable/3.4/...
>>>>>>>> root DL area/files/localized/3.4/...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> see:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a look to other projects in the dist folder on Apache and
>>>>>>> looked
>>>>>>> what we already have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From my point of view the old structure doesn't really make too
much
>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should we for example put the localized bit in separate
>>>>>>> directories
>>>>>>> when we have the language Id as part of the name?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And we have only stable releases in the future. Ok we will have
>>>>>>> archives
>>>>>>> of older versions but that's it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do we have the time to adapt it to the new structure. We should
do
>>>>>>> it ow
>>>>>>> if possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do others think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It won't work because the DL logic is working the old way, and only
>>>>>> this way. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The old structure has everything in a single directory. The only
>>>>>> separation is for en-US only (stable) and all other languages
>>>>>> (localized).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When we change the structure now where the builds are physicaly
>>>>>> existing, then we have to adapt the complete logic, too, which is
an
>>>>>> effort that I cannot predict.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the best solution is to keep the old separation and think about
>>>>>> to change this with a new release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I would prefer to have every install file for a specific version
>>>>>> in a single directory. This makes it the easiest way to assemble
>>>>>> download links:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Example:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <root-path>/files/3.4.0/...
>>>>>> <root-path>/files/3.4.1/...
>>>>>> <root-path>/files/3.5.0/...
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We can only keep the most current version in Apache dist. All older
>>>>> versions go to the archive.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oh yes, right, then it's only one directory.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>  right now -- especially with the desire to continue to serve up
>>> "friendly" dl logic in the new /download/3.3.0 directory, this is really
>>> and truly critical. Yes, it's true, given the Apache current release
>>> dictum, we will only have one directory setup --
>>>
>>> /dist/incubator/ooo/files/3.4.**0/stable
>>> /dist/incubator/ooo/files/3.4.**0/localized
>>>
>>
>> ok that means I will upload the files in this way
>>
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/stable/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/stable/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.**asc
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/stable/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.**md5
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/stable/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.**sha1
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/stable/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg.**sha512
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/stable/...
>>
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/de/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/de/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg.asc
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/de/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg.md5
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/de/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg.sha1
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/de/Apache_**
>> OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_**MacOS_x86_install_de.dmg.**sha512
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/de/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/ar/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/cs/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/en-GB/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/es/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/fr/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/gl/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/hu/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/it/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/ja/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/nl/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/pt-BR/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/ru/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/zh-CN/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**3.4.0/localized/zh-TW/...
>>
>
> Sorry for the empty post just now... :/
>
> Jurgen --
>
> A thousand apologies -- I  gave you INCORRECT  information on DL file
> structure before...
>
> please take a look at:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/
>
> instead of <root>/files/<version>/stable/<pack name>
>
> we need
> <root>/files/stable/<version>/<pack name>
>
> and
>
> <root>/files/localized/<language>/<version>/<pack name>
>
> Right now, SF has the correct structure we need.
>
> Again, I am sorry for providing incorrect information before...
>
> Thanks for your understanding.
>

OK, I see what happened...I got MY reply mixed up with open by Marcus...

Right now I have the DL friendly script setup to only use SF...which is
setup in the "old" way. I don't think we'll be usign Apache for pre-build
client downloads.

So, I have a question -- who will be setting up the SF packs and will they
just stick with the current structure on that system for DLs --

i.e.

<root>/files/stable/<version>/
<pack name>

and

<root>/files/localized/<language>/<version>/<pack name>

I'm hoping the answer is "YES".



>
>>
>> Note that I don't use the version in the localized folders again.
>> Otherwise we have to change it to
>>
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**stable/3.4.0/...
>> .../dist/incubator/ooo/files/**localized/de/3.4.0/...
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Seriously, once we get past this release, we could and should discuss
>>> this some more, but for now...we don't really have time to re-do the
>>> logic for a different directory setup
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
>
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>  And life has a funny way of helping you out
>  Helping you out."
>                             -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>
>
>


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