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From Kay Schenk <>
Subject Re: this is in production now...Re: [WWW] new logo in staging only...I think we need a graphic modification
Date Wed, 04 Apr 2012 15:49:13 GMT
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton

> @Kay,
> The main problem is that JPEG is a lossy format and it is designed for
> photographic images, not line drawings. So font and sharp-edge fuzziness is
> always a problem.  Furthermore, modification of JPEGs (change of scale,
> resolution, orientation, etc.,) just accumulates more degradation.
> PNGs are better, at the resolution of the PNG, but also suffer under
> modification because of rasterization (they are still bitmaps).
> Someplace, it is necessary to find a quality vector-graphic version so
> that lossless PNGs can be produced at whatever resolutions are required;
> the graphic should be used in anything to be viewed at various resolutions,
> projected, and also printed, as for publishable documentation, PDFs, etc.
>  There can also be adjusting for features that do not scale proportionally
> (especially fonts) and that have difficulty when their clean resolution is
> finer than the target pixel spacing permits.  That's usually why even
> families of vector-graphic forms are desired for different target size
> ranges.
> Aside from all of that, I think the Orb1 as now presented is the ideal
> form, although there could be some tweaking as just noticed on the wiki
> page by Kevin.  I don't agree with the capitalization as "APACHE" though.
>  The balance on the current form, with "Apache" seems fine, especially at
> web-page resolutions and scale.
>  - Dennis
> "Anyone who thinks protocol is unnecessary has never tried to make friends
> with a cat."
>  - attributed to Lazarus Long

Dennis and others --

I'm STILL hoping that the original creator --
Michael Acevedo

might be in contact to change both the size (we need somewhat bigger) and

Again, I am definitely NOT a graphics creator and my skills are quite
limited in this regard.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kay Schenk []
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 20:31
> To:
> Subject: this is in production now...Re: [WWW] new logo in staging
> only...I think we need a graphic modification
> [ ... ]
> well...I did a LOT more futzing kind of to no avail...changed some styles,
> corrected some erroneous ones, then finally put this into production.
> It could look better but well, web sites are NEVER set in concrete, and I
> wanted to get this done before RC 3.4, which seems rather imminent.
> And I can't speak to my available time over the next day or so.
> Meanwhile, I will try to document the setup as I know it (which is well,
> not very good).
> done for today...
> [ ... ]


"Women and cats will do as they please,
 and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea."
Robert Heinlein

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